ArchivedOSAS revisitedIf I am wrong then I will admit to it, however I will not admit to a false doctrine which you teach by perverting the Gospel. Aineo, your entire response do not refute what I have refuted. Your only responses to my rebuttals are displacing your negative attitudes upon others to give them a guilt trip and superseding my responses with your failed rebuttals. Doesn't that sound a bit hypocritical, since you used lexicons and definitions to try and disprove my argument? Any reproof which comes your way is classified as a personal attack, would you like me to search this board and demonstrate your hypocrisy? Nevertheless, I'm not going to waste my time listening to your mudslinging since I know that it is another tactic to sidetrack me. Too many times and counting, how does to leave the faith denote loss of Salvation or prove that they once possessed faith? Once again how is faith defined? and don't use the excuse of absurdity of word definitions, because in order to effectively communicate and interpret words in their correct context, word definitions are a must. The faith is defined as "revealed truth regarding the deity of Christ and the redemption through His atoning sacrifice". You can depart from a faith and not possess faith since "apostasy" is an act of a professed Christian and mere profession is not an indication of faith. What is disturbing is that your analogy of gay theology is a primary example of how you have distorted Gods word and pulled them completely out of context by neglecting the precise definitions when broken down. To state that no one can depart from a faith they never held; no one can depart from God's truth unless they once accepted God's truth isn't completely true, what you fail to realize is that this does not imply that those who depart from their faith actually accepted it as truth since self-professed Christians can depart. Furthermore any self-professed Christian can depart from a faith, this does not mean that they actually believed in what they held, common sense! Your very mention that those who apostasize and depart from the faith were in fact saved is the epitome of inserting words into scripture, theres your proof "If" you do not continue in the faith you will be cut off? Cut off from what? That entire passage is not restricted to Salvation as you and other conditional security adherents try to advocate, but in plain context deals with Gods ability to not only re-graft His people despite their failures, but also the blessings and privileges that are extended to the Jews and the Gentiles. Your removing one pea from a pod and calling that one pea a pod. I never directly stated that "they were never saved in the first place", your trying to get the upper hand while at the same time avoiding a question which has been proposed over and over again. What I did point out is the fact that your feeble argument that those who apostasize were in fact saved which you have yet to prove. What a cop out to my rebuttal, I have already proven numerous times on this thread and even established beyond doubt that my argument was tried, tested and true, and anyone on this board except you can see for themselves. If in fact that those who are to be rejected on that day cast out demons did it by the power of God, then Jesus' words are in direct conflict with His very own. Once again, CONTEXT is important in this passage, what does the person who gets rejected by Jesus actually say? What questions are asked to the LORD? a). Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? b). And in thy name have cast out devils? c). And in thy name done many wonderful works? Jesus' ANSWER? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Jesus' answer is Clearly NO! Plain context shows that these people claimed to have cast out devils, done many wonderful works and prophesied in His name, which is the very reason why many are rejected on that day, especially those who try and secure salvation by their own merits and living sinful lifestyles and in hypocrisy professing to be Christian. Instead of categorizing teachers and believers of OSASers as those who have "seared consciences" and those living sinful lifestyles while turning a blind eye to the eternal consequences, you neglect the sincerity of those who teach OSAS also teach that those who live according to the flesh "WILL NOT" inherit the Kingdom of God! The attitude of Conditional Security adherents are similar to: The Pharisees pride and contempt for other reveal the true state of their heart. The heart is regarded as the seat of sin. The sinners action implies acute contrition and a sense of personal unworthiness and to obtain forgiveness, he thinks not of his own merits but solely on God's mercy. Conditional Security followers can attempt to secure Salvation by this route and will be doomed for failure, Salvation is secured by putting our complete trust in "Christs finished work" on the cross and not ours, and this does not include living in sin. God Bless! |
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