ArchivedOSAS revisitedScreaming rants?..... Okie dokie, if you say so Aineo, I find it a tad hypocritical how you tell me to cease from wrangling over words and at the same time continue to re-define the definitions of the words I posted. Call me a hypocrite if you will but.... Where in the above definition does it actually state that those who apostasize are actually saved? As a matter of fact it states that the person denies Christianity as the way of Salvation, do you consider this a saved person? A BIG thanks for further strengthening my argument. Furthermore, stating that I actually said anywhere in my posts that we are saved by "the faith" is not only distorting my words but also giving the illusion that you have refuted my argument which you obviously could not. I never said that we are saved by "the faith", I plainly refuted how your feeble argument of how "the faith" refers to personal faith which BTW I utterly disproved. Your argument would be valid if those who depart from the faith were in FACT saved, which you have yet to prove but deliberately sidestepped this argument each time it is posed. Actually it is I who pity you how you have the temerity of accusing me of calling the Holy Spirit a liar when I have established with scriptures how your rebuttals are inefficient and lack supportive biblical evidence to back your premise. Universalism teaches that not all men who follow any god will be saved, but that all will be saved, Which is a false doctrine like Conditional Security. Go ahead and make your usual insinuations of how I teach false doctrines to tickle the ears of the weak and encourage them to willfully sin when I have thoroughly explained the differences of those who teach OSAS and turn the Grace of God to lasciviousness and those who teach OSAS as a doctrine that teaches that Salvation is secured to those who actually are doers of the words and not hearers only. I am not going to waste my time reading the link provided since men and women are known for slandering men and women of God. Aineo, please don't attempt to have me implicate Billy Graham as an unbeliever, you have a knack of resorting to personalities and then try and have me label them as unbelievers. Men have departed, renounced, and perverted "the faith" from the 1st century until today? AND? You can depart, renounce and pervert the Gospel which is the exact meaning of "the faith" , how does this prove that they were saved??? Your back to square one. |
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