ArchivedOSAS revisitedI am not angry Aineo, as a matter of fact I find your rebuttals entertaining and amusing, so please cease from your accusations, it is your word against mine and your childlike tactics of displacing your faults on others and especially me is transparent. Despite your childish finger pointing, I will neglect this nonsense and stick with my argument. Now please don't sidestep my argument with rhetorical nonsense, call my methods sophomoric hubris if you wish because I could care less, all I want is for you to stop running from my argument and answer them for once. Your dancing around scriptures in your vain attempt to disprove what you obviously cannot. How many times does apostasy need to be defined? How does (enduring to the end) prove that a saved person can somehow lose their salvation from the time they obtain it till the end? The Bible clearly states that those who are born of God endures to the end.
And for nearly the tenth time, how do you reconcile this comment from your previous posts: Then claim that Billy Graham and Mel White and others have already become apostate, if your definition of apostate equates to the "loss of salvation", then your at a loss because your argument not only displays fallacy but conflicts with sound doctrine. Paul taught apostasy or the falling away from the faith, he did not teach that those who actually "fell away" were in FACT saved. Then you have the audacity of saying that I denigrate the Holy Spirit and Jesus? That is called slander. You have YET to prove that those who have "departed" "fell away" (aphistemi) once possessed Salvation which has been my premise from the get go. The only passage that states that a "believer" can actually depart from their belief is found in Luke 8:13, and even that verse does not validate that those who "fall away" actually once obtained Salvation. The word for "believe" is (pisteuo) and is found in James 2:19 where it states that the demons also "believe" (pisteuo). Now you can argue that no demon is going to confess with their mouth that Jesus is Lord, however that argument is faulty because the same can be said about a person that believes (just as the demons) while not confessing with their mouth that Jesus is Lord, then "fall away". Furthermore, the demons of Gadarene fully acknowledged with action that Jesus is "the Son of God" (Matt. 8:29). I certainly hope that in your next response that you will not continue with accusations but stick with the topic "Salvation" and whether or not one can lose it, which BTW you have yet to prove. God Bless! |
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