ArchivedOSAS revisited
Neither Calvinist, Protestant, Catholic, Methodist or Orthodox is the Final authority because as of this day there exists doctrinal discrepancies and variances within these Denominations. I disagree with the majority of Calvin's teachings and do not establish the doctrine of Eternal Security based on Calvin or any denomination, but on the principle of Gods word and the truth contained within.
I never "labeled" any conditional security adherent as an unbeliever, so please do not make any assumptions, I do however believe that they are mislead. Now the Bible does not definitively prove that salvation can be lost, and neither does any of your responses. Aineo, you continually post the same argument time and again, and it is going in circles. Your entire premise is founded upon personal opinion and is not substantiated with scriptural exegesis but conjecture and incongruities. And I say again, it cannot be proven that when the Spirit speaks "expressly" that some (shall depart from) "fall away" {aphistemi}, were once saved! Furthermore it cannot be concluded that the person who "falls away" cannot return as with the Disciples in Matthew 26:31, which primarily refers to the disciples denial in knowing Christ, However we know that Peter himself said "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." which clearly expresses his belief in that passage, yet we also know that he "fell away" momentarily then returned, was Peter saved to begin with? The same is found in Luke 8:13 where one believes for a while and then "falls away" {aphistemi}. A person can have superficial belief in God, e.g., believe that Jesus is the Son of God as with Peter, believe that He rose from the dead and was born of a virgin and fall away, however it cannot be determined that they were saved to begin with. 1 Timothy 4:1 which states "the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith", this can apply to those who never acted upon the Gift of Salvation, i.e., they can confess with their mouths that Jesus is Lord, He died for their sins, rose again the third day and not act upon it. Salvation comes by responding to the message of the Gospel, understanding the nature of Christ's atonement, feel the guilt of conviction, love God, "obeyed from the heart" (Rom. 6:17) and surrender their wills to the offer of Salvation. A Genuine Believer has power over sin, has perseverance and continually does the "will of God" Secondly, I do not believe that a genuine believer can become apostate because the scriptures never state that the Spirit speaks "expressly" that some shall (lose their salvation) they once obtained. If a person " falls from grace", it is because he/she believes that they can earn their way to heaven by their own efforts (Galatians 5:4) The bible tells us to "strive" {agonizomai:to struggle or labor fervently} to enter in at the straight gate because many will try and not be able to (Lk. 13:24), this is because these people rely upon their own strengths and efforts to try and enter Heaven when in fact it is Christ in us who give us the power to endure, struggle an overcome (Phil. 4:13; 2 Cor. 13:4; 1 Pet. 1:5), because without Him we remain powerless (John. 15:5). Those who try and enter this way demonstrate that they have pride and do not put their trust in the Grace of God, which is a sign of unbelief. God Bless! |
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