ArchivedOSAS revisitedHebrews 10:39 the writer uses the word (WE) indicating that it not only applies to his readers but also to himself. Aineo, it is apparent that you will continue to maintain the same disposition when it comes to Conditional Security regardless of the fact that I have clearly proven that those who fall away do not possess saving faith, saving faith and faith are NOT THE SAME! Q. Why does a person "FALL AWAY"? A. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have (no root)[spiritual reality], which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away. (Luke 8:13) Q. Receiving the word with just joy is not a constituent of "saving faith", why? A. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also (believe), and tremble. (James 2:19) The same word for "believe" {pisteuo} is used in Lk. 8:13 and James 2:19, therefore to state that the person that "falls away" after they have believed {pisteuo} for a while were once saved is misconstruing that passage. The demons of James 2:19 still "believe" that Jesus is the Son of God, however they do not possess saving faith. Are you still going to tell me that adding the word "saving" makes no difference whatsoever in regards to faith? Saving faith is faith that endures, abides and stands firm in the truth of Gods word and the finished work of the Cross, this is accomplished only if there is ROOT within the person. We know that "faith" {pistis:conviction of the truth of God, assurance, reliance upon Christ for Salvation} is a fruit of the Spirit, and unless there lies a root from within, the person not possessing saving faith remains barren and has the propensity to fall away. Nearly anyone on this forum can see for themselves that I have clearly proven that those who fall away from the faith were indeed never saved whether you deny this with your usual statement: You can consider OSAS a false doctrine and a doctrine of men, however that is exactly what I consider Conditional Security. Since you obviously will continue to ignore all I have presented and pose the same question over and over again which BTW have been refuted, I don't see the purpose of continuing. God Bless! |
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