ArchivedOSAS revisited(Omega), all you have done is avoid the issue. In Hebrews 10:39 the author cannot be using a coporate "we" unless he personally knows every person who reads his epistle since no human being can speak for every other human being who reads what he writes. The obvious understaning of the "we" are those who accompany the writer who was probably Paul. Let's use some common sense and not wishful thinking.
Also you keep coming back to believers being sealed by the Holy Spirit, who is received by faith. What can break that seal? The answer is obvious; walk away from the faith or become apostate. So what is your response? Those who fail away from the faith never possessed "saving faith", which is an opinion that you cannot base on Scripture. This is especially true since Paul writes in plain language: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
1 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you may not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.[/color]NAS
1 Timothy 4:1-5
4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude; 5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.
NAS So who would deceive the body of Christ? Those who teach unScriptural doctrines like OSAS that lull some who willfully sin into a false sense of eternal security. It is only those who overcome and endure to the end that will be saved.Matthew 24:4-14
4 And Jesus answered and said to them, "See to it that no one misleads you. 5 "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will mislead many. 6 "And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. 8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. 9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of My name. 10 "And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another. 11 "And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many. 12 "And because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold. 13 "But the one who endures to the end, he shall be saved. 14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a witness to all the nations, and then the end shall come. NAS You can put your faith in manmade doctrine all you want, but unless you have something more than rhetoric to show that Jesus did not know what He sas talking about I will accept His word over OSAS any day of the week.
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