ArchivedOSAS revisitedI will take a look at that thread. It looks like that first post is pretty lengthy, though, so it may take a little while. This is not the reason I am saying that. Did you not see where I also said "I say"? The reason I did this was for TruthSeeker-Joshua's sake. If he wants to see posts that explain your side of the OSAS debate, he should look at your posts. If he wants to see posts that explain my side of the OSAS debate, he should look at my posts. First, where's your proof that OSAS was first proposed by Calvin. Second, I would appreciate it if you would not break your own rules for this thread. Your only rule for this thread was "no personal attacks and no dealing in generalities." Yet here you are attacking me by saying that I have done no real Bible study, but that I just spout off the teachings of another man. Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, I've studied the Bible for myself and came to some of the same conclusions as Calvin did? If you're gonna make rules, at least abide by them, please. Is it too much for me to ask you to treat my arguments as addressing the Bible and not Calvin? I'm trying to address the issues, but all you do in response is is wave your hand and say "you're appealing to Calvin." I'm more than happy to try to address the Bible, but addressing it from my side means that I'm gonna have to say things like "they were never saved in the first place" - an argument you won't even entertain, let alone refute. An example would be the 10 spies sent out at Kadesh-barnea. They entered the Promised Land, saw the blessings God had for them there, and partook of the fruit of the land (compare that to the "those who were once enlightened, who tasted the heavenly gift, became companions with the Holy Spirit, tasted God's good word and the powers of the coming age" of Heb 6:4-5), yet they fell away. Did you give me any Biblical proof that they were saved? No. You concluded that they were saved and lost their faith based on what you believe the Bible says. Similarly, I concluded that they were not saved in the first place based on what I believe the Bible says. |
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