ArchivedOSAS revisitedFirst of all interpreting my posts in an attempt to twist them to be personal attacks is simply your opinion. I asked for Biblical proof that "they were never saved in the first place" is an appropriate response for those who "fall away" were never being saved. Reread that part of my post since what I asked you to do was study the Bible and give me a Biblical response not a “they were never saved in the first place” since that phrase denies what Jesus and Paul taught as well as the very meaning of the word apostasy. Since we are saved by grace through faith loss of faith equates to loss of salvation. Now if you disagree with this then show me where I am wrong, but show me in God’s word. Second, the 10 spies who tasted the fruits of the promise land did not inherit anything in the Promised Land since they like the rest of the Israelites who rebelled against God died in the wilderness. The only spies that did enter the holy land were Joshua and Caleb so I fail to see how this applies to your side of this discussion. As to Calvin being the first to propose OSAS that is simply a matter of Christian history. Now if you want to show me I am wrong then please do so. Even a cursory study of the history of OSAS will bring you back to Calvin's 5 points. You will not find OSAS in Catholicism or any of the Orthodox faiths. I was raised Presbyterian, which was founded by Knox who was a student of Calvin. I did not learn much about the Holy Spirit and other Biblical teachings but I did lean a lot about Calvinism, which included he was the first to teach OSAS. Well lets see how a personal belief can lead to error when such belief is based on selected verses. There is a website http://www.whosoever.com that states gays are saved based on these and other verses: I think we can both agree that this belief is false and denies Biblical truth. BTW, I can’t tell you the number of professed gay Christians who appeal to OSAS as a get out of hell free card since they assert that they are among the “whosoever”. |
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