Peace humble guest,

haha, bro just because you googled it doesn't mean it's real.

Neo Nazis can google the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and it will come up, doesn't mean it's "real".

Judging from the websites that talk about it, namely all being ones that attack Islam and contain other falsified information, I would like some info on where they found the document and where they claim it's archived. Some background info on the text itself. Allegedly it was written after the death of Umar by non-Muslims to assert that they had been persecuted by the Muslims.

Man, you really are trying to deny a reality.
The Pact of Umar is a real document. Whether or not you recognize that won't make it any less real.

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-kills-pact-of-umar.htm

See! Even Islamic sites accept this real document.

We can talk all year about the oppressive non-Islamic laws in Arab countries, it doesn't mean they are based on Islam.

These strict laws can be traced to the Quran and Hadiths.
They seem to be widely accepted among the Islamic community.
Are they all misguided???

No you can say that, believe that, pray that. But, for example, if you wanted to allege that Jesus actually claimed that and that therefore the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is a liar, then there'd be an issue. Otherwise, Muslims believe that people who say that Jesus said that he was the son of God are attributing a lie TO Jesus, and not that Jesus (pbuh) lied, because they believe he didn't even say that.

Well, I mean there's no solid evidence from the Bible that Muhammed was in fact a legitamite prophet, but that's certainly another discussion altogether.

Well I think if these cults start spreading falsehood about your God then the laws that are protecting them are not godly laws. Any law that protects falsehood or sin is not a godly law and you shouldn't be proud of it.

I'm not proud that cult people practice their destructive religions.

No, but that depends on his subsequent outward behavior. If this is about switching religions and the God you worship, this is an internalized belief, anyone who organizes based on this, or starts spreading propaganda, or wants to notify as many people about their change of belief as possible are considered hypocrites, because it's no longer between them and God, they are making a statement about the religion of the state.

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_ ... 2759.shtml

What is happening is that extremist Muslims are hunting down converts to Christianity and killing them!!!
This, sadly, is a growing thing.

bro, by the 15th century Turkey was the center of the Islamic Khalifite, I would think 99%+ of it was Muslim. This is what's important regarding whether a church becomes a mosque. If it's a delayed reaction, that's unusual, but doesn't make it unlawful.

Humble, Constantinpole fell in 1453!!! That's the middle of the 15th century already!!! It did not suddenly turn Muslim.
The sultan took the city and was awe-struck with the awesome Hagia Sophia and made into a mosque. That's what happened.

Yes, that is disgusting and low of the Turkish government to do that. If Turkey was actually ruled by Muslims instead of secularists, they would have made amends for this hatable crime immediately.

I haven't heard Sudan apologize for the 2000000 Christians and animists they have killed. This doesn't even bother Muslims!!!! That is sick!!!

You'd be surprised actually, most of the Turks hate their government and acknowledge the crime of the Armenian genocide. The real criminal is the denying government. But you do realize that Israel also doesn't acknowledge the Armenian genocide because it wants to back its Turkish ally?

Yeah? Hey, are you from Turkey??

But unfortunately, one doesn't judge a religion by "how close it is" to the Truth. Zoroastrians believe in too many things that in Islam would be considered apostacy. I mean some Christians don't even consider mormons Christians, and Mormons are 30 times closer to Christianity than Zorastrians are to Islam, so it's not a matter of relativity. If there are fundamental breaches in faith, it's a breach, it's not considered "too close to call"

Except Zoroastrianism began 1500 years before Islam!!!
It is a very ancient religion that has been practicing their ways as long as Judaism, perhaps longer!!
Maybe it's Islam that breaches the Zoroastrian faith rather than vice versa.

I think they're misguided but may have the right intentions.

Well, that's a considerable percentage of the Ummah.
How can so many Muslims, followers of a perfect religion, be so misguided??

Well it's not a matter of desire or weakness, it's a matter of presenting himself as the most just ruler but also as one of God's best men. Jesus (pbuh) will live like a model man, and this isn't done by ascetism and celibacy, this is done by living an exemplary life. This is one of the reasons why the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) married, read this great hadith:

Not everyone desires marriage or sex.
Some of the most religious saints that ever lived were people that devoted their whole lives to God and decided not to marry. Marriage is optional, it's not a requirement.

Also, if Jesus ascended to heaven to sit next to the Almighty, He would become a spiritual being since material things and bodies can not exist in Heaven.
When Jesus comes back He will be a spiritual being.
Does this make sense to you????

Islam teaches that Jesus (pbuh) will rule in unprecedented peace and justice for a given time, but not an everlasting kingdom. Islam doesn't teach that the Messiah will rule forever because after the Messiah's rule, judgement day will occur, and then people spend eternity in Hell or Heaven. Everyone is judged by God, even the Messiah (but of course he is of the dwellers of heaven).

Well, then Islam does not concur with all of the visions and revelations that God gave to the Prophets.

I also heard some Muslims beore say the Hell isn't an eternity, but will eventually be destroyed and the evil people would be purified by hell fire.
Is this true??

I can't really explain why the Jews would believe that the Messiah rules an everlasting kingdom because they believe that God is separate from the Messiah and they believe in Heaven and Hell. What I do know is that the Jews had so altered the signs foretelling the Messiah that some of them couldn't even recognize Jesus to be the Messiah because he no longer fit the description they had made.

The Jews today don't believe the same way the Jews of Moses's time or Jesus's time did.

Also, this is a prophecy in your Bible that hasn't happened yet, and I think it is risky to base your belief on a prophecy that has not occurred because when the time comes for it to happen (or not happen as I believe) it will be too late.

That shouldn't matter if I know what will happen.
I see in the prophets' writings that the Son of Man is being served by the nations and people, and this is consistent with Jesus, who called Himself the Son of Man, is the Messiah that will forever rule mankind in the New World.
Jesus did say that He was a King not from this world.
It is stated that the Son of Man will be seated at God's right hand and is the Lord, this also is consitent with Christianity.

All these astonishing consistencies!!!
How can Chrsitianity be wrong?