Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readPeace humble guest, So Yeshu and Christus aren't Jesus Christ? I wish you would recognize the reality that this man WAS crucified. Today the big argument with scholars is "Did Jesus really ressurect"? It has already been established that Jesus was crucified. The Quran contains nothing that humans beings couldn't write, and it reflects the mentality of men. It does not verify or build on the teachings of Jesus Christ, but it regresses from the teachings of Jesus Christ. Nothing regressive is from God. For example, Jesus taught that marriages were a sacred bond between two people that should not be seperated. Now Muhammed had a bunch of wives and alot of times he married for purely political purposes, just using marriage as a form of diplomacy. Also, Jesus NEVER killed anyone and He spared a sinful adulteress. Muhammed killed people and he has adulteresses stoned. Please son't tell me this man is a "prophet" of God. The Islamic concept of God is a product of human thought. What you said does not prove the Quran is from God. Alot of ancient writings have been preserved. The Iliad is very ancient yet it is very well preserved and is a complete epic that survived for 2500 years. The Code of Hammurabi is 3800 years old!! Again, the Quran contains narratives from two Infancy gospels that are compeltely different and were written centuries after Jesus's childhood. Definitely any man of reason would believe a Gospel written 20 years after Jesus then to beloeve something hundreds of years after Jesus lived. The Quran also contains stories derived from many Jewish, Christian, and Persian apocryphal writings. Interesting how you say "logical" people wouldn't believe Jesus spoke as a child to a date-palm telling it to bring for water, and you believe this. And so are you too "logical" to believe that the Spirit of God and the holy King are united with God? You'd believe Jesus was instructing date-palms to do things as a baby, and yet you won't believe that God is an awesome mystery beyond human thought. The Islamic concept of God is too humanistic, it reflects the mentality of how humans beings percieve God. The earliest Christian writing is a pre-Markan Passion narrative. WHat I call "apocryphal" is something written centuries after Jesus lived and resembles something taken out of Mother Goose. Like baby Jesus making little boirfds from clay and commanding date-palms! No one in their right mind could believe these things. I have not seen a "serious" contradiction, in fact the Bible is very accurate. Archeologists have found Joseph's colored coat from an old tomb, and they have found Sodo and Gommorrah that were destroyed by some unusual fire. Evidence amounts every day that the Bible is an accurate piece of historical work. See, you just assume the Quran is a divine book, but you are using backwards logic. That is one big illogical thing that you have done. The Quran IS a 7th century apocryphal writing that contains very late apocryphal writings found among the heretical Jews, Christians, and Persians in Muhammed's city. No wonder why Muhammed's revelations stopped for a while after Waraqa died! That heretical Chistian probably gave him the Arabic Infancy Gospels and Pseudo-Matthew gospel!! The Trinity is clearly evideny in scripture, and that is a big reason why I believe it. I see the Spirit of the LORD play a big role all the way back in Moses's time, I see prophecies talking about a heavenly King that sits and the right hand of the LORD and is called "LORD" so He is united with Him. Such evidences are not to be disregared and corruptions! God exists not as a one-bodied God (this is an impied thing, never stated in scripture), but God is The Spirit, Jesus, and Father. |
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