Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readY'all are hilarous! Yeah, I'm excited to hear your views on Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22. The Prophets themsleves wrote their writings, and their trusted scriptes helped. Actually alot of the OT books were written by the prophet Baruch, the scribe of prophet Jeremiah and also a prophet of God himself. His writing style is seen alot in the OT. Well, the great Wisdom in Jesus's teachings didn't come from his not to educated Apostles, Paul, or the historians that compiled the Gospels. Jesus left the religious teacher speechless with his wise yet radical teachings, and perhaps yourself! That may be why you come up with the same pathetic argument. You are just giving conjecture that is not logical in this circumstance. Abram was a polytheist pagan of Ur before God came to Him and said "Walk before me and be blameless" He was then renamed Abraham. First of all, Jesus gave his teachings to many people, and such teachings were to awesome for them to forget or mess up. If people can recall the entire Quran from memory, certainly people can recall the Gospel story from memory. Like the Apostles. BTW I look for the earlier MORE LOGICAL narrative. Jesus takling as a baby and commanding date-palms to bring forth water and fruit is FLAKY AND STUPID. I would, by a landslide vote, accept what is said in the Gospels then the hogwash in your Quran. You can believe that junk that derived from late apocryphal gospels if you desire, if being misguided doesn't bother you. And you should not accept somethibng just bacuse it's well preserved and memorized well. The Zoroastrians would memorize their Avesta because it was written with a certain number of syllables per line. That doesn't mean the Avesta is Truth from God. The pagan Hindus also memorize and preserve their Vedas. The Rig Veda is certainly the same scripture today as it was before the Aryans moved to India!!! I was talking about the QURAN teaching you incorrect things about Christians and Jews and our faiths. Now I don't believe in what is in the Gospels just because I belief its' from God. I research my beliefs and traced what Jesus said and did back to ancint prophecies and extra-canonical sources. I research your faith and find a mountain of falsehoods. Yes, you love them as human beings but you do not love the evilness that they do. How can this be so hard to understand? A good father loves his children, even when they do evil things. I believe God is like this, but not so in Islam. Allah does not love all his children, unlike a good father. Thus a good father is more loving than Allah. Oh! Okay, that's good you brought that up then. By "love" I mean that we are created by God in His divine image (Judeo-Christian belief), and we all are created with love and we are children of God. Some people are seriously corrupted by evilness and committ crimes and stuff and live licentiously. A Christian is called to love people as brothers and sisters because God is our Father. We love them as children of God, as human beings that need help. We do not love their evil deeds. I don't know if I explained it all correctly, but do you understand? I don't hate Muhammed, but indeed I feel that he was the hateful one. He had people killed and he was not a good example like Jesus Christ. Muhammed did call his followers to fight other nations too. These things are hateful actions. I ascribe NO partners with God, again I see you are a very misguided person with a warped view of my faith. I do not curse God, rather I refuse to recognize any religion outside of Judaism and Christianity as having the True God in their faith. I will pray for you also my brother. I don't hate you or any one except their misguidance, so we are almost on the same level! Well, why doesn't Allah love all his children like the Father in Christianity? You don't know all the history then. Do you know why early Maronite Chrisrian churches had very low doors??? Muslims would ride into their churches and slaughter Christians!!! Other evil actions were perpetrated by Muslims against Christians. Where did all this hatred come from???? Omar and Muhammed told them to fight others until they submit to Islam. We shall not manifest our religion publicly nor convert anyone to it. We shall not prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it. We shall clip the fronts of our heads. We shall always dress in the same way wherever we may be, and we shall bind the zunar round our waists We shall not display our crosses or our books in the roads or markets of the Muslims. We shall use only clappers in our churches very softly. We shall not raise our voices when following our dead. We shall not show lights on any of the roads of the Muslims or in their markets. We shall not bury our dead near the Muslims. These are oppressive and very unkind :evil: But we're talking about regular people worshipping in their temples. Other unkind rules were imposed on them. These clothes ruled were imposed on Jews by Christians, and today the Church is very ashamed that such mistreatment was done by Christians. What mullahs are ashamed of Omar's unkind rules? 1) I DO NOT believe that my wonderful great God would give any revelation to this Muhammed. That goes against my Judeo-Christian God. We DO NOT worship the same God. It's scary how you can be so oblivious to the falsehood of your religion. Doesn't take a genius to see how Jesus of the Gospels is the REAL Jesus. It's all about Prophecy, that's why I want you to read carefully through Isiaah 53 and Psalm 22. Jesus of the Gospels is the REAL Jesus, unless you can PROVE otherwise. Islam is just incorrect, no matter how much you can convince yourself it is true, Islam is still a lie, it is NOT true. I have the Truth and I see the Truth plain and clear, I have no doubts in my mind or even an inclination in my soul that my faith is wrong because I cannot deny reality. Trinity and Jesus's crucifixion are two realities that I accept. What you believe, although sounds good to you and perhaps more believeable than Christianity, but it is not real or true. God is not a one-bodied God or limited to one body or form. Water has three forms and Einstein proved that energy and matter are one in the same. Can these aweseome mysteries in our univerese be more complex than God??? That cannot be acceptable.
This site is loaded with falsehood. Jesus is the Son of Man (as He called himself) that its at the right hand of God, NOT Muhammed. He is the Lord that sits at the right hand of God in Psalm 110:1;5 NOT Muhammed, but Jesus. If you put any trust in ths site then you are very much a misguided soul. No matter what your lying scholars will say or do (like lawyers defending a lost cause) the are wrong. You cannot change the FACT that Jesus Christ is the Lord that is next to the Father in power. He is the Son of Man that the Father raised from the dead, as He bore our iniquity on the cross. Psalm 110:5 The Lord is at your right hand; he will crush kings on the day of his wrath. It's not about Charles Darwin, rather it is a reality in Science. Scientist have done DNA comapeing and we share most of our DNA with chimps, not t omention many obviously similarities are visible when looking at a chimp and a person. Ome should not deny what is real. The Quran only says "Jews" Why is your book so vague?? This is a serious matter. Jewish apocryphal writings show Ezra to be this mystical prophet like Enoch that talks to angels and sees the Son of God and stuff. All Jewish apocrypha. The Ten Commandments are laws that define how we shold act. They aren't like God telling a story, like in the QUran, like a third person narrorator. That is different. Very rarely will God say "We" or "Us", as often as the Quran shows Allah saying "I". Jesus did truly understand the Law of God. |
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