Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readPeace humble guest, Okay, well if you have any questions, feel free to ask us here. Okay, so I'll repeat myself again. I will present what is required to support my belief. This is a very important argument. The writers if the Gospels did not have enough information about Jesus's childhood, so that chapter is left pretty blank. Understand that the writers of the Gospels were honestly trying to write an accurate account of Jesus's life. Centuries after Jesus died, early Christians became very curious about what Jesus did as a child. This drive to know caused many people to contrive fables and myths to entertain the people's curiosity. And we get such things as the Infancy Gospels and Pseudo-Matthew, and other apocryphal writings surroidning the Prophets and various Bible stories. Matthew 13:53-38 53When Jesus had finished these parables, he moved on from there. 54Coming to his hometown, he began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. "Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?" they asked. 55"Isn't this the carpenter's son? Isn't his mother's name Mary, and aren't his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? 56Aren't all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?" 57And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor." 58And he did not do many miracles there because of their lack of faith. Now of course you'd like to argue over the authenticity of the Gospels, but I would certainly trust a document compiled a few decades after Jesus lived than documents written centuries after Jesus lived. Authenticity heavily relies on the range of time a document is compiled after an event. Now Jesus didn't speak as a child or work little miracles as a child or the people of Nazarether, Jesus's hometown, would NOT have been surprised He was a wise and miraculous person. But they were very surprised because Jesus was just like a normal Jewish child. This is a logical reasonable argument that I have presented. What do you believe about what I presented? The Apostles likely did write things down, and certainly they were witnesses that gave information to the Gospelers that compiled the Gospels. Understand that the Gospels were compilations. Most of the Apostles likely were illiterate, so they spread the Good News by word-of-mouth. Their very early Christian communities did believe that Jesus was the Lord that died for our sins (as Isaiah said) and ressurected, that was the Good News! That is what "gospel" means! We English speaking people use the English word "apocryphal" to mean "not authentic". :roll: That's what I do believe. And certainly making clay molds of birds and making them real, that is very pointless and silly. God did not and would not do that. Those who contrived thees myths to appease curious Christians have insulted Jesus Christ. Man, what are you talking about??? I said: They[the Gospels] are authenticated by the Prophets' writings and Psalms...can't do that with Islam. No sir! I stated a truth, and even Matthew list a bunch of prophecies that Jesus fulfilled, and many were not listed. You put these prophecies together, and here is the story of Jesus as presented in the Gospels!!! Now where does the Quran list OT or NT prophecies in support of the claims the Quran presents about Muhammed being the final prophet?
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, there came with the clouds of heaven one like unto a son of man, and he came even to the Ancient of days, and he was brought near before Him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all the peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. Daniel 7:13-14, JEWISH TANAKH How can we interpret this??? We see the Son of Man being worshipped by the peoples and nations! He has an everlasting kingdom! This is very much verified as Jesus in the Gospels. What could this mean in regareds to Islam??? |
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