Christian/Muslim Threadsa must readPeace humble guest, Moses NEVER talked about prophets before him. He is the first true prophet of God. All these things are IRRELEVANT to God. How many times you pray a day is not relevant, pray as much as you feel like praying. If you recite the same 5 prayers every day they become too routine, and the prayers are useless if one's heart is not in the right place. Eating pig meat is not going to upset God. Mo man can call what God created unclean. God would not create unclean animals. You could eat any animal: Lizards, insects, pigs, whale, elephant, etc. The Satan in Islam is nothing short of a fusion of the Zoroastrian devil Ahriman with the Satan portrayed in the "Life of Adam and Eve", an apocryphal writing. The scary question is: Where is the real Satan in Islam?. Because you follow a false revelatiopn designed to mislead you from the Truth. Isaiah 53:10-11 10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. It was the will of the Father that Jesus would be a guilt offering for our sins. 11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light of life and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. Jesus ressurects and bears our iniquity. That is what these verses are saying. According you you, humble, what else could this mean? THIS IS THE DIVINE REVELATION!!!!! The Prophet Isaiah wrote this Divine Revelation and Jesus fulfilled it.
Okay, good to know. Still awaiting your critiques.
Which Apostles are mentioned? Is Paul mentioned also?
That is nonsense. The prophets were just average people before God came to them. When God came to them, then they became these amazing people. God is not limited to just choosing supermen to be prophets. Actually our beloved prophet Moses was once a pagan polytheist when he was a powerful son of the Pharoah. He, of couse, became the prophet Moses that we know after God spoke to Him on the Mt. Sinai.
Actually they do, except for two things. Jesus said He was the "Son of God" from the mamnger, and Jesus was born oin a cave before being under the date-palm, the Quran doesn't include those two things. That's all, the stories are very much identicle.
The fact that these storied sound silly is not the only thing. They sound silly and weird and they were written centuries after Jesus lived. If they were existing storied during the time the Gospel's were compiled, they would indeed have been included.
Basically you believe the two because the Quran mentions them, well sorry but that is not very good use of logic.
The Gospels ARE the more authentic account. The other stories are recognized by most scholars and me as very unauthentic. "may" shows me you're not too sure yourself.
Devoted religious scholars and even the prophets themselves oversaw and copied the Torah and other OT writings.
Since I see so so many human stories and beliefs in the Quran, I do sincerely believe it is a product of humans, not something from God.
No one of us can define what is appropriate for God. God would not have to change if He became a man for a time, that would not change who God is. God can be a million places at once. If God is standing next to you and sitting on His throne in heaven, that does not change who God is. God does not NEED to become a man if He didn't care to, but supposed God WANTED to. Suppose God loved mankind so much that He desired to walk among us. Like the story of the prince that wanted to live life outside of his castle and mingle with his people.
Because Jesus READ the prophecies and told us that He fulfilled them. Understand that Jesus's life was a fulfillment of prophecy.
Love doesn't mean to support or accept anything evil, that's called sharing in perversion. We do not differ, which is very odd considering we're arguing over this like we're on two opposite sides. Then why doesn't your Allah love (in our context) all of his children? Why does he hate some people? In our context it would not be like Allah is loving his children's evilness, just them as his children, unique people that need love and care to be cured of their misguidance.
Like nobody can love praying towards a pagan shrine, but you don't see it that way, you're conviced the Kaabah is a holy shrine. I firmly believe that God is the Spirit and the Son, and the Father. We should try to respect each other's beliefs, but I know it can be hard at times. I can't respect your faith's insults and falsehoods against Christianity.
Actually it's NOT different at all. We see Bahuallah as a false prophet the same way I see yours as false. Bahuallh did not teach things that were better or even the same as Muhammed, he takes his followers in some weird direction. Muhammed took his followers in some weird direction because he did not model hismelf after the teachings of Jesus Christ. What Jesus taught in the Gospels is full of divine wosdom and awe, it is not possible for them to be corrupted or written by Paul or Jesus's uneducated Apostles. E.g., he stoned adulteresses while Jesus used His Godly Wisdom and taught is that we have no right to kill another because he/she sinned. Why didn't Muhmammed use such Godly Wisdom?
Well, He did "work" on Sabbath and healed people, and he let filthy prostitutes rub perfume on his feet. Understand what Christ taught, He is the teacher. He taught that legalistic things like what animal to eat/ not to eat or how many times to pray a day or how much to give for alms...all of that is not relevant. All good must come purely from the heart, that is a central theme in Christ's teachings.
John the Baptist, the greatest prophet before Jesus, was not a violent man or a fighter like your Muhammed. In my books John the Baptist was a much greater prophet than Muhammed.
That does not give anyone the right to exact revenge on someone for leaving Islam for another faith. That is a man't unalienable right to choose what he wished to believe. An infringement on that right is clearly harsh oppression.
Again, any community should know who's a Muslim are who isn't. You see people going to church and never praying on Friday, that should be sufficient.
So, it's accepted by most Muslims. It can't be any worse than a simple cross.
Yeah, well that's not specified in the pact of Omar.
I do not believe that Abraham build the Kaabah, as much as you don't believe that Jesus is the Lord. I percieve it to be a pagan shrine and praying towards it and making pilgrimages to it is perverted worship of God in my views, like you would say accepting Jesus as Lord is incorrect worship of God.
nonetheless, evil pogroms agianst Christians were done. Wonder why Maronite churches had smal llittle doors, had to crawl to get in. That was there to stop Muslims from entering churches and slaughter and pillage.
The Messiah IS the Lord. Only God is our Savior and Redeemer.
Do you believe that God's creations are more compelx and mysterious than God Himself???????
This has nothing to do with Charles Darwin. And of course early huamns coexisted with some of these hominids. Evolution occurrs in one species in one place, and the nre creatures spread around and eventually out compete and overrule the older species. THAT IS HOW EVOLUTION IS SUPPOSED TO WORK. |
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