Liberate :
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Do you not see the booty Mohammed was talking about was the captured women to be raped and the slavery to be had when he and his gang of cut throats besieged quraish businessmen
How can you say the above words? what is your source of info? or have you reached this conclusion based on your own deductions?? does this mean you are an authority on this subject?
My source of info is the tafsir on sura 19, available here:
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=9&tid=20938
I enclose a quote from it, it is nothing to do with a prophecy of Saudi oil but the battle of Hunayn:
...The Prophet released six thousand prisoners to them, but divided the war spoils between the victors, such as some of the Tulaqa', so that their hearts would be inclined towards Islam. He gave each of them a hundred camels, and the same to Malik bin `Awf An-Nasri whom he appointed chief of his people (Huwazin) as he was before. Malik bin `Awf said a poem in which he praised the Messenger of Allah for his generosity and extraordinary courage.
[يأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ إِنَّمَا الْمُشْرِكُونَ نَجَسٌ فَلاَ يَقْرَبُواْ الْمَسْجِدَ الْحَرَامَ بَعْدَ عَامِهِمْ هَـذَا وَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ عَيْلَةً فَسَوْفَ يُغْنِيكُمُ اللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ إِن شَآءَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ - قَـتِلُواْ الَّذِينَ لاَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَلاَ بِالْيَوْمِ الاٌّخِرِ وَلاَ يُحَرِّمُونَ مَا حَرَّمَ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَلاَ يَدِينُونَ دِينَ الْحَقِّ مِنَ الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَـبَ حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ ]
(28. O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikin are impure. So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haram after this year; and if you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you if He wills, out of His bounty. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.) (29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.)
Liberate :
Also do you know of this thread
http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=3543
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it is a sticky note... talking about respecting others and their faiths... a simple question... would Jesus go around calling other liars and rapists etc??? and condem them??? do you remember the story of the jews who wanted to stone the adultress???
Maybe I should make something clear, I believe islam is not from God, I believe Mohammed was not led by a spirit from God, if I honestly believed something was from the devil, misguiding millions who are unaware of the real life of this so called prophet without a prophecy to his name, you want me to sugarcoat his behaviour?
At no point in any of my posts have I insulted anybody on this forum, my comments have been on islam and the man behind it. If you know something will lead millions into the pit of hell, it is your duty as a human being, and as a christian to expose the sham for what it is.
and Jesus said "He who has no sin can cast the first stone" is your behaviour in line with what Jesus taught???
I could give you a similar scenario of a thief that was brought to Mohammed but you probably will just call me a hatemonger.
Plz remember that anything you say and do is noted down for future reference... no one gets to heaven on a free ticket... everyone pays the price....
Christianity stipulates our price has been paid.
You say you are a re-born christian... hence you are in Christ... does a person who is "In Christ" act like this? outright animosity!!! zero tolerance!!!
Zero tolerance and animosity towards the devil?
I reiterate at no point have I been personal with anyone in this forum.
Why do you think Jesus died on the cross???
Now you believe Jesus died on the cross? Surely you are aware that this contradicts islamic doctrine, or maybe you are another westernized muslim with his own brand of islam?
just to save your sorry rear end???
no my friend... it was an example for all... tolerance... Tolerance is the key.
The personal insult aside, you lost me.
Is a reborn christian justified in accusing others of negative ideas???
What do you mean? All the accusations I labelled against Mohammed are found in the hadiths of Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawod, Malik, Tabari, Ishaq, and the koran, I could list where he raped, and stole from quraish businessmen, but if you will call me an unchristian hatemonger for showing you about the man that you label the greatest example of a human being for all time, then you misunderstand christianity, it is hate the sin not the sinner, for the record I do not hate muslims, having lived in an islamic country myself for 11 years all I would like muslims to do is apply some rationality to their scriptures.