Christian/Muslim ThreadsWhat qualifies Muhamad as a prophet ?That was a brilliant post Loki, wished I had seen it before I posted mine, it looks like certain muslims are purposely trying to be as irrational as possible. I don't know is about as much as you have said, I am afraid it is not good enough for someone proclaiming to instruct us on islam. LOL. Do you know who wrote the testament of Abraham? A christian heretical sect, how can Abraham have writtien it IF IT WAS WRITTEN BY CHRISTIANS!!!? Enlighten us on what it says to justify islam. Am I to believe you are prepared to contradict your own religion to get a point? Imagine this scenario I see a muslim and an atheist arguing, the atheist argues that there is no such thing as gods, for all he cares there might be a pink unicorn, he claims mohammed was swindling and lording it over the arabians, I laugh and side with the atheist knowing full well that his arguments can equally be used against me. A christian does not have to stoop that low. Precisely what I am talking about, you are now undermining the prophet hood of John even though your koran says he is a prophet, do you think we christians would agree that Paul is a devil just to gain an inch? with a hindu or a Bahai or a Hare Krishna??
They witnessed a man undergoing an 'epileptic' fit.
I believe this has already been shown to you, and if you honestly believe Mohammed is a spirit you are as irrational as you can get. So when Jesus says I will send the Comforter He really means he will send Mohammed 600 yrs later to the disciples, what is the point? The disciples would be long dead what good would it be. It was a question, seeing the standard of your other replies I guess it was asking too much.
You want proof that Mohammed wanted to commit suicide? What type of a muslim are you if you are unaware of this? What good does it do you being this irrational? You know perfectly well your koran says John is a prophet. Why are you ridiculing your own beliefs to get one up on the opposition? Do you think christians are proud to argue against non christians that "Paul is a devil", this is exactly what you are doing "my beliefs be damned, the devil was talking to John..." I am sad to say this attitude of degrading your own beliefs to gain an inch is symptomatic of a suicide bomber, blowing yourself/your beliefs to bits to gain what? Anybody reading this thread will know this is a desperate tactic, I understand Saddam's own relatives gave him up, and now you are making an argument that John the baptist was demon possessed even though your koran claims he was a prophet, could this behaviour of cutting the hand that feeds you notorious only islam?
Pls bring me the correct hadiths and tafsirs, there are reasons why I ask this of you, if you were to do this everybody reading this thread will know your arguments are nothing but hot air. I need a little bit more to go on that "false hadiths...I don't know....it's fabricated...wrong translation..."
Pls I asked for hadiths, can you not show me the same courtesy I have extended to you? Show me the proper and correct context since what I am saying are lies.
Do you know how many muslims have told me the stone running away with Moses's clothes is a miracle? Are you trying to tell me your eminent imams and scholars who recorded this sayings didn't have common sense? Then by default the rigorously tested chain of narrators also didn't have common sense, and since they claimed to have got this information from Mohammed himself, then he doesn't have common sense. Do you realise the logical fallacy of an argument you are making? That the founders of your religion incorporated lies into islamic doctrine Without these islamic doctrine there is no shariah law, the rules and regulations that governs how a muslim behaves goes out the window because the hadiths give us these laws, following the example of Mohammed himself, you forget there is no separation between religion and state in islam, the two are intertwined, are you telling me that the idealogy of islam's shariah law is a pack of lies, transmitted by a pack of idiots, obtained from a greater idiot?
Oh pls, the unitarians believe Jesus is God, how does that help you?
Try it sometime make a tape recording of yourself, have it played back, you will be two entities having the same voice, but to you, you are actually now two completely different persons. If we were to take your argument to it's logical conclusion, since you believe allah is everywhere and hears everything, then how can allah be one?
Let me explain something to you as to what I believe... the koran is a demonic forgery, the fact that it plagiarised biblical stories out of context with no chronology does not give it any credibility whatsoever.
I am beginning to wonder if you are really a nominal muslim, are you telling me you are unaware of the verse that says just that? Your little trick of asking the other side to counteract what you believe the koran is silent on so you delude yourself that you have the moral high ground can't work this time, are you telling me you are unaware it says "all married women are forbidden unto you except captives your right hands possess". Pls explain what that verse means. We are all ears.
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