3- Mary and Josef used to go to Jerusalem every year to celebrate the Passover (Luke 2:41), like any ordinary Jews.
4- Once upon a time during the Passover, Mary and Josef lost Jesus and they found him in the temple (Jewish place for worship) asking and listening to the Jewish teachers. (Luke 2:46).
5- Juses used to use Old Testament in his arguments with others (Matthew 12:5) even if with the devil (Luke 4:1-13).
6- Jesus used to teach in the Jewish Temple (Mark 12:35).
7- Jesus paid tax to support the temple (Matthew 17:24-25). Jewish men paid this tax to support the temple; [Exodus 30:11-16].
8- One of the last advices of Jesus for his disciples to obey the Jewish teachers of the Moses’ law and the Pharisees [Matthew 23: 1-3].
9- Jesus did not come with a new Law. He did come to abolish the Law of Moses and other prophets but to complete it. [Matthew 5:17]. Then he stated that anyone broke the commandants and teach other will be away of the truth. [Matthew 5:19].
10- The People used to call Jesus son of David. And all of us know that David was a Jewish king [Matthew 21:9].
11- According to the Gospel of Matthew Jesus described himself as a king of Jews [Matthew 27:11].
12- According to the Christians’ Theory Jesus killed on the Cross (crucified), anyways, after his death the Anajeel (Gospels) tell us that Jesus’ Friends wound his body in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. [John 19:40].
13- Even if the disciples of Jesus were so worried about some information that Paul taught all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs [Acts 21:21 (New King James Version)].
14- Then the disciples asked Paul to assure for the Jews who believed that he did not forsake Moses’ law by purifying himself with four persons. He should Shave his head with them and pay the expenses of shaving their heads too. So everyone can understand that Paul was still following the law of Moses [Acts 21:21 (New King James Version)].
15- Finally Paul took the men, and the next day, having been purified with them, entered the temple to announce the expiration of the days of purification, at which time an offering should be made for each one of them [Acts 21:26]
16- Even if the Jews who believed in Jesus followed the Law of Moses and they were zealous for it [Acts 21:20].
In the Quran sometimes it stated the term “People of the Book” or “People of the Script” (Whatever translators translate the term, it means Jews and Christians) while it just refers one of them. For General people they think this term always refers for them both. And I can say, yes that is right most of time.
Here are the Quran states the term “People of the People” while it verse refers to Jews only [3].
{ يَسْأَلُكَ أَهْلُ ٱلْكِتَابِ أَن تُنَزِّلَ عَلَيْهِمْ كِتَاباً مِّنَ ٱلسَّمَآءِ فَقَدْ سَأَلُواْ مُوسَىٰ أَكْبَرَ مِن ذٰلِكَ فَقَالُوۤاْ أَرِنَا ٱللَّهَ جَهْرَةً فَأَخَذَتْهُمُ ٱلصَّاعِقَةُ بِظُلْمِهِمْ ثُمَّ ٱتَّخَذُواْ ٱلْعِجْلَ مِن بَعْدِ مَا جَآءَتْهُمُ ٱلْبَيِّنَاتُ فَعَفَوْنَا عَن ذٰلِكَ وَآتَيْنَا مُوسَىٰ سُلْطَاناً مُّبِيناً }
The Translation of the Meanings of the Quran [4] by Arthur J. Arberry
“[4]The People of the Book will ask thee to bring down upon them a Book from heaven; and they asked Moses for greater than that, for they said, ’Show us God openly.’ And the thunderbolt took them for their evildoing. Then they took to themselves the Calf, after the clear signs had come to them; yet We pardoned them that, and We bestowed upon Moses a clear authority.”
The verse obviously refers to the Jews only. Christians did not ask Moses?
Compare that to this Verse from the same Surah of the Quran [4: 171]
Here are the Quran states the term “People of the People” while it verse refers to Christian only [4].
{ يٰأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَابِ لاَ تَغْلُواْ فِي دِينِكُمْ وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ إِلاَّ ٱلْحَقَّ إِنَّمَا ٱلْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ ٱللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُ أَلْقَاهَا إِلَىٰ مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ فَآمِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَلاَ تَقُولُواْ ثَلاَثَةٌ ٱنتَهُواْ خَيْراً لَّكُمْ إِنَّمَا ٱللَّهُ إِلَـٰهٌ وَاحِدٌ سُبْحَانَهُ أَن يَكُونَ لَهُ وَلَدٌ لَّهُ مَا فِي ٱلسَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي ٱلأَرْضِ وَكَفَىٰ بِٱللَّهِ وَكِيلاً }
The Translation of the Meanings of the Quran [4] by Arthur J. Arberry
{[4]People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not, ’Three.’ Refrain; better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian.}
The verse obviously refers to the Jews only. Jews do not say God is three or Jesus is a son of God?
What is the main point of all of that? The main point that For us Muslims, Christians are Jews or another class of Jews. Because they are originally came from Jews roots. All the evidences refer to that. So when they Quran talks about that people who changed the words from its place, or corruption or perversion the verses and refers to Jews, it means also Christians.
Christians are just Jews take another way. The earliest Christians followed the Law of Moses, they entered the temple. Jesus asked them to follow the teachers for Moses in their teaching but do not act like that. All of that has been explained before. That is why Quran used the term “People of the Book” referring to once for Jews and Once for Christians.
It is not my own desire to say that, Quran supported my idea. Others too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Mes ... ristianity
The Quran was so accurate saying Jews corrupted the Bible (Old and New Testaments) because you are just grandson’s sons of Jews.
By looking at the term Christians we would understand more about this issue. For Jews there is a religion called “Judaism” and a messenger called Moses (Mercy and Peace of Allah be upon him). For Muslims there is a religion called “Islam” and a prophet called “Mohamed” (Peace and Mercy of Allah be upon him”. But for Christians there just a messenger called “Jesus Christ” or "Jesus the anointed" (Mercy and peace of Allah be upon him) and that is why they Christians. They have no real religion and that is right. They originally should follow the Law of Moses [Matthew 5: 17-19], [Matthew 23: 1-3]. [Acts 21:19-26].
And finally that is how Muslims Scientists see the Christians like just a part groups of Jews.
Quran [5]
{ لَقَدْ كَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوۤاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلْمَسِيحُ ٱبْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَقَالَ ٱلْمَسِيحُ يَابَنِيۤ إِسْرَائِيلَ ٱعْبُدُواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمْ إِنَّهُ مَن يُشْرِكْ بِٱللَّهِ فَقَدْ حَرَّمَ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيهِ ٱلْجَنَّةَ وَمَأْوَاهُ ٱلنَّارُ وَمَا لِلظَّالِمِينَ مِنْ أَنصَارٍ }
Translation of the Meanings of the Quran by Arthur J. Arberry
{[5]They are unbelievers who say, ’God is the Messiah, Mary’s son.’ For the Messiah said, ’Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord. Verily whoso associates with God anything, God shall prohibit him entrance to Paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire; and wrongdoers shall have no helpers.’}
Here are the explanations of the Quran [5] by Al- Tabari
وهذا خبر من الله تعالـى ذكره عن بعض ما فَتَن به الإسرائيـلـيـين الذين أخبر عنهم أنهم حسبوا أن لا تكون فتنة. يقول تعالـى ذكره: فكان مـما ابتلـيتهم واختبرتهم به فنقضوا فـيه ميثاقـي وغيروا عهدي الذي كنت أخذته علـيهم، بأن لا يعبدوا سواي ولا يتـخذوا ربـاً غيري، وأن يوحدونـي، وينتهوا إلـى طاعتـي عبدي عيسى ابن مريـم، فإنـي خـلقته وأجريت علـى يده نـحو الذي أجريت علـى يد كثـير من رسلـي، فقالوا كفراً منهم: هو الله
Al-Tabari here stated that the Israeli people (Children of Israel) said in a disbelief way that Jesus is God. And of course Jews themselves did not say that, but Christians did.
The real problem however appears in the following verse in the Koran states:
Quote:
That is why We laid it down for the Israelites that whoever killed a human being, except as punishment for murder or other villainy in the land, shall be deemed as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved a human life shall be deemed as though he had saved all mankind. -- Sura 5:32.
Where does this verse come from? Well not from God, it comes from a Jewish commentator, the Mishnah Sanhedrin:
Quote:
We find it said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother, "The voice of thy brother's bloods crieth" (Gen. 4:10). It is not said here blood in the singular, but bloods in the plural, that is, his own blood and the blood of his seed. Man was created single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual it shall be reckoned that he has slain the whole race, but to him who preserves the life of a single individual it is counted that he hath preserved the whole race.
Mishnah Sanhedrin, 4:5
Talking about additions: what does a Jewish fairytale do in the Koran, and why does it even include a commentators note of it?
Let us finally end this search with the real problem of the Quran, [5]
{ مِنْ أَجْلِ ذٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِيۤ إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّهُ مَن قَتَلَ نَفْساً بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي ٱلأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ ٱلنَّاسَ جَمِيعاً وَمَنْ أَحْيَاهَا فَكَأَنَّمَا أَحْيَا النَّاسَ جَمِيعاً وَلَقَدْ جَآءَتْهُمْ رُسُلُنَا بِٱلّبَيِّنَٰتِ ثُمَّ إِنَّ كَثِيراً مِّنْهُمْ بَعْدَ ذٰلِكَ فِي ٱلأَرْضِ لَمُسْرِفُونَ }
Translation of the Meanings of the Quran by Arthur J. Arberry
{[5]Therefore We prescribed for the Children of Israel that whoso slays a soul not to retaliate for a soul slain, nor for corruption done in the land, shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and whoso gives life to a soul, shall be as if he ha given life to mankind altogether. Our Messengers have already come to them with the clear signs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.}
Genesis 4:10 (New International Version)
{10 The LORD said, "What have you done? Listen! Your brother's blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth."}
The verse of the Quran is a general prescription for all murders, where as the Bible verse is God speaking specifically to Cain for the murder of his brother Abel. The Bible verse says nothing about Abel’s murder being as bad as if he killed everyone on earth, nor does it say anything about one who preserves life. The Quran takes the story of Cain and Abel and uses it to make a general prescription, where as the biblical story really only speaks to that specific situation.
So, As you see there is a huge difference between both verses Oral Torah and the Quran. And as we mentioned this subject, let me put for you a comment by a Converted Jewish Journalist to Islam “Muhammad Asad” in his Translations for the meanings of the Quran[5]
( above. The moral of this particular Biblical story -a moral which the followers of the Bible have been "concealing from themselves" - is summarized in verse 32. AL-MA’ IDAH SURAH with all evidence of the truth: yet, behold, notwithstanding all this, many of them go on committing all manner of excesses on earth.
We find it said in the case of Cain who murdered his brother, "The voice of thy brother's bloods crieth" (Gen. 4:10). It is not said here blood in the singular, but bloods in the plural, that is, his own blood and the blood of his seed. Man was created single in order to show that to him who kills a single individual it shall be reckoned that he has slain the whole race, but to him who preserves the life of a single individual it is counted that he hath preserved the whole race.
Mishnah Sanhedrin, 4:5
Now about Mishnah Sanhedrin
[85] Mishnah, Sanhedrin 4: 5
[פה] משנה מסכת סנהדרין פרק ד משנה ה
לפיכך נברא אדם יחידי ללמדך שכל המאבד נפש אחד מעלה עליו הכתוב כאילו איבד עולם מלא וכל המקיים נפש אחת מעלה עליו הכתוב כאילו קיים עולם מלא ומפני שלום הבריות שלא יאמר אדם לחבירו אבא גדול מאביך . . . ולהגיד גדולתו של הקדוש ברוך הוא שאדם טובע כמה מטבעות בחותם אחד וכולן דומין זה לזה ומלך מלכי המלכים הקדוש ברוך הוא טבע כל אדם בחותמו של אדם הראשון ואין אחד מהן דומה לחבירו.
And this the translation for who may it concern in English
[85] Mishnah, Sanhedrin 4: 5
For this reason, man [i.e. the first human being] was created alone to teach that whoever destroys a single life is as though he had destroyed an entire universe, and whoever saves a single life is as if he had saved an entire universe. Furthermore [the first man was created alone] for the sake of peace among men, so that no one could say to another, “My ancestor was greater than yours” . . . [Yet another reason] was to proclaim the greatness of the Holy One, blessed be He, for when a human being strikes many coins from one mould, they all resemble one another, but the supreme King of kings, the Holy One, blessed be He, fashioned every man in the stamp of the first man, and yet not one of them resembles his fellow.
The Scientific faithful behaviour in arguments allow to put the original context in its original language for who those to see if you translation is right or wrong. Now check your translation to the main context in Hebrew and see if it is close enough or not. I will lead the judge for the people who can translate it and compare between our translations. Ask as anyone knows Hebrew which translation is more accurate.
Second, As this [85] Mishnah, Sanhedrin 4: 5 (Oral Torah) which you Christians did not add it to your books, Descirbes [Genesis 4:10] And as we explained before that there differences between two verses (Written Torah and Quran). So let us see the difference here between the (Oral Torah) according to Jews theory and The Quran.
The context of Mishnah, Sanhedrin talked about the reason of the creation (For this reason, man [i.e. the first human being] was created alone to teach that whoever destroys a single life is as though he had destroyed an entire universe]. Mishnah, Sanhedrin did not mentioned that the man is ordered. Quran stated that the man is ordered by that { مِنْ أَجْلِ ذٰلِكَ كَتَبْنَا عَلَىٰ بَنِيۤ إِسْرَائِيلَ}. In all the Quran when it the term “Katabna” “كَتَبْنَا” always referred to something has been ordered. Quran stated this term three times. Check that in
Quran [4]
{ وَلَوْ أَنَّا كَتَبْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ أَنِ ٱقْتُلُوۤاْ أَنْفُسَكُمْ أَوِ ٱخْرُجُواْ مِن دِيَارِكُمْ مَّا فَعَلُوهُ إِلاَّ قَلِيلٌ مِّنْهُمْ وَلَوْ أَنَّهُمْ فَعَلُواْ مَا يُوعَظُونَ بِهِ لَكَانَ خَيْراً لَّهُمْ وَأَشَدَّ تَثْبِيتاً }
Translation of the Meanings of the Quran by Arthur J. Arberry
{[4]But had We prescribed for them, saying, ’Slay yourselves’ or ’Leave your habitations,’ they would not have done it, save a few of them; yet if they had done as they were admonished it would have been better for them, and stronger confirming them,}
Prescribed here means “Orders”
Go to
www.dictionary.com to check it yourself.
Quran [21]
{ وَلَقَدْ كَتَبْنَا فِي ٱلزَّبُورِ مِن بَعْدِ ٱلذِّكْرِ أَنَّ ٱلأَرْضَ يَرِثُهَا عِبَادِيَ ٱلصَّالِحُونَ }
Translation of the Meanings of the Quran by Arthur J. Arberry
“[21]For We have written in the Psalms, after the Remembrance, ’The earth shall be the inheritance of My righteous servants.’”
Mishnah, Sanhedrin did not give order or said that is a law of God. It is just said man created to teach. Man created to get married too. But many do not do. Man created to eat beef but many just eat vegetables so will God enter them to the hell because of that?
[Quran 5:15]
{ يَا أَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَابِ قَدْ جَآءَكُمْ رَسُولُنَا يُبَيِّنُ لَكُمْ كَثِيراً مِّمَّا كُنْتُمْ تُخْفُونَ مِنَ ٱلْكِتَابِ وَيَعْفُواْ عَن كَثِيرٍ قَدْ جَآءَكُمْ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ نُورٌ وَكِتَابٌ مُّبِينٌ }
Translation of the Meanings of the Quran by Arthur J. Arberry
{[5]People of the Book, now there has come to you Our Messenger, making clear to you many things you have been concealing of the Book, and effacing many things. There has come to you from God a light, and a Book Manifest}
Is not that what Muhammad Asad the converted Jewish Journalist into Islam said in its comment for verse [5].
SO, the Quran come to assure that is an order in their book but they did not take it like an order.
Finally depending on Mishnah, Sanhedrin is a hudge problem for the New Testmant. As you see there is not problem with the Quran.
Mark and Matthew indicate that the trial before the Sanhedrin occurred at night and a capital trial at night was illegal. Mishnah Sanhedrin 4.1 confirms the illegality of a capital trial at night, assuming that the law stated in the Mishnah existed in 30 C.E.
Mark indicates that the charge against Jesus was blasphemy: "You have heard the blasphemy (Mark 14:64)." Under Mishnah Tractate 7.5, blasphemy consists only of uttering the name of God, so there is reason to question whether in fact that was the charge against Jesus. If it is assumed to be the charge, however, Mishhah Tractate 7.4 makes clear that execution by stoning was an available option for such a crime.
For more about this subject go there,
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... edrin.html
So, as you see the Mishnah Sanhedrin is a problem for the Bible. One of them should be right Mishnah Sanhedrin or the New Testament. Choose.
And that is why a Jewish Professor stated in BBC News, it is impossible that Jesus put on the Cross for death because according to Moses law he should be stoned plus what is in Mishnah , read that [Deuteronomy 13:1-6], [ Deuteronomy 17, 2-7].
Let me end my article with this verse about the converted people although Allah stated the term “People of the Book”
Quran 3:199
{ وَإِنَّ مِنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَابِ لَمَن يُؤْمِنُ بِٱللَّهِ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُمْ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِمْ خَاشِعِينَ للَّهِ لاَ يَشْتَرُونَ بِآيَاتِ ٱللَّهِ ثَمَناً قَلِيلاً أُوْلۤـٰئِكَ لَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ سَرِيعُ ٱلْحِسَابِ }
{[3]And some there are of the People of the Book who believe in God, and what has been sent down unto you, and what has been sent down unto them, men humble to God, not selling the signs of God for a small price; those -- their wage is with their Lord; God is swift at the reckoning.}
To be contained insha Allah the next week with very clear evidences that Apple pie is a very good invitation to Islam.