BradtheImpaler wrote:I notice you have refused to address the Lord’s commandment found in Matthew 28 that disciples are to be baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You force an interpretation on Acts 10 to mean baptism is a commandment and then conveniently ignore the one commandment the Lord gave concerning baptism.
Matthew.28:19 is spurious...a later interpolation by Trinitarian scribes -
"The Trinitarian formula (Mt.28:19) was a late addition by some reverent Christian mind" (Black's Bible Dictionary)
"The command to baptize into the threefold name is a late doctrinal expansion" (Bible Commentary, p.723, Dr. Peake)
"The cumulative evidence of these 3 lines of criticism (Textual - Literary - Historical) is thus distinctly against the view that Mt.28:19 represents the exact words of Christ" (Hastings Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics)
If you think the NT was NOT tampered with to reflect an evolving Trinitarian dogma then -
"You are naive my friend, sooo, sooo naive" (George Castanza, "Seinfeld")
Is this your only response? Well what about Mark 16 being spuriours?
Here are some more:
http://www.purewords.org/kjb1611/html/mark16_9.htm
http://www.levendwater.org/companion/append168.html
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/ar ... -1791.html
Now who is being naïve?
Hisway has used a “spurious section” of Scripture in an attempt to show his position on tongues is valid.
BradtheImpaler wrote:You are the one ignoring much scripture by trying to write off passages in a certain book of the NT which you apparently find damaging to YOUR "theology".
When are you going to cease posting lies? I have not stated Acts is not part of Scripture or that it cannot be used:
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
KJV
I have posted that Acts is primarily history and should not be used as the sole source for establishing doctrine.
Hisway, it appears when you cannot make your point Biblically your only tactic is to resort to name-calling. None of the commentaries I posted state that the Isaiah passage was fulfilled by the Babylonian captivity that was my comment, so your comment is based on ignorance, not truth. Any Bible scholar who disagrees with you is a minion of the devil while those who agree with you are filled with the Spirit. You have not established that the Nicolaitane’s heresy was the Trinity yet you continue to make that claim on thread after thread.
1 Corinthians 14:21-22
21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
KJV
The Jews rejected their Messiah and the gospel was preached in Greek to other nations whose native language was Greek or have you decided to ignore that Paul was raised in a Greek culture and all his letters were written in Greek? Paul, under divine inspiration clearly states, “tongues are not a sign to those who believe, but to them that believe not”. So I will again ask what you do and do not accept as “inspired”.
The “gift of the Holy Spirit” is given to all believers who then gifts individuals as He pleases. Not all who are gifted of the Holy Spirit are then gifted with tongues.
Acts is very clear that the Holy Spirit was imparted by the laying on of hands not only in Acts 8 but:
Acts 19:3-6
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
KJV