Aineo wrote:Okay, lets nip the attitude in the bud, Mr. arrogant smilie. Your last two posts violate our Forum Rules, which you agreed to abide by when you registered. I suggest you review those rules and either abide by them or suffer the consequences. I also suggest you read this thread:
http://www.jesus-christ-forums.com/home/viewtopic.php?t=7752
Now, lets educate you and just maybe your hubris will be exposed for the ignorance it demonstrates.
LORD. The rendering of several Heb. and Gk. words, which have different meanings:
1. Jehovah (yahweh; Heb. YHWH, "self-existent"). This is used as a proper name of God and should have been retained in that form by the translators. See (The) LORD (below); Yahweh.
2. lord (Heb. 'Adon), an early word denoting ownership; hence, absolute control. It is not properly a divine title, being used of the owner of slaves (Genesis 24:14,27; 39:2,7, rendered "master"), of kings as the lords of their subjects (Isaiah 26:13, "master"), of a husband as lord of the wife (Genesis 18:12). It is applied to God as the owner and governor of the whole earth (Psalms 114:7). It is sometimes used as a term of respect (like our sir) but with a pronoun attached ("my lord"). It often occurs in the plural.
3. Adonai (Heb. 'adonay), emphatic, "the Lord"; many regard it as the plural of no. 2. It is used chiefly in the Pentateuch-always where God is submissively and reverently addressed (Exodus 4:10,13; Joshua 7:8) and also when God is spoken of (1 Kings 13:9; 22:6; etc.). The Jews, out of a superstitious reverence for the name Jehovah, always pronounce Adonai where Jehovah is written. The similar form, with the suffix, is also used of men, as of Potiphar (Genesis 39:2, "master") and of Joseph (42:30,33).
4. lord, Master (Grk. kurios, "supreme"), he to whom a person or thing belongs, the master, the one having disposition of men or property, as the "owner of the vineyard" (Matthew 20:8; 21:40; Mark 12:9; Luke 20:15, see marg.); the "Lord of the harvest" (Matthew 9:38; Luke 10:2); the "master of the house" (Mark 13:35, see marg.); "Lord of the Sabbath" (Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5), as having the power to determine what is suitable to the Sabbath, and of releasing himself and others from its obligation. The term is also a title of honor sometimes rendered "sir" and is expressive of the respect and reverence with which servants salute their master (Matthew 13:27; Luke 13:8; 14:22; etc.); employed by a son in addressing his father (Matthew 21:29); by citizens toward magistrates (27:63); by anyone wishing to honor a man of distinction (8:2,6,8; 15:27; Mark 7:28; Luke 5:12; etc.); by the disciples in saluting Jesus, their teacher and master (Matthew 8:25; 16:22; Luke 9:54; John 11:12; etc.). This title is given to God, the ruler of the universe, both with the article ho kurios (Matthew 1:22; 5:33; Mark 5:19; Acts 7:33; 2 Timothy 1:16,18; etc.) and without the article (Matthew 21:9; 27:10; Mark 13:20; Luke 2:9,23,26; Hebrews 7:21; etc.). The title is also applied to Jesus as the Messiah, since by His death He acquired a special ownership of mankind and after His resurrection was exalted by a partnership in the divine administration (Acts 10:36; Romans 14:8; 1 Corinthians 7:22; 8:6; Philippians 2:9-11).
5. Baal (Heb. ba`al, "master"), applied only to heathen deities, or to the man as husband, and so on, or to one specially skilled in a trade or profession. See Baal.
6. Other and less important words in the original are rendered "Lord," such as mare', "master" (Acts 2:47), an official title, and seren, a Philistine term found in Joshua, Judges, and 1 Samuel, where "the lords of the Philistines" are mentioned.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: E. Lohmeyer, Kyrios Christos (1928); W. Bousset, Kyrios Christos (1935).
(THE) LORD; KJV, "Jehovah" (je-ho'va; Heb. YHWH, LXX; usually ho Kurios). The name of God most frequently used in the Hebrew Scriptures but commonly represented-we cannot say rendered-in the KJV and NIV by LORD.
Pronunciation. The true pronunciation of this name, by which God was known to the Hebrews, has been entirely lost, the Jews themselves scrupulously avoiding every mention of it and substituting in its stead one or other of the words with whose proper vowel points it may happen to be written, usually the name Adonai. They continued to write YHWH, but read Adonai. Where God is called "My Lord Jehovah" (Heb. Adonai YHWH), Elohim was substituted to avoid the double Adonai. When the vowel points were added to the Heb. text the rule, in the case of words written but not read, was to attach to these words the vowels belonging to the words read in place of them. Thus they attached to YHWH the points of 'adonay; hence the form Yehowah and the name Yeh'v'h. The strong probability is that the name Jehovah was anciently pronounced Yahweh, like the Iabe of the Samaritans. This custom, which had its origin in reverence, and has almost degenerated into a superstition, was founded upon an erroneous rendering of Leviticus 24:16, from which it was inferred that the mere utterance of the name constituted a capital offense. According to Jewish tradition, it was pronounced but once a year by the high priest on the Day of Atonement when he entered the Holy of Holies; but on this point there is some doubt.
For the LeClerc-Haupt-Albright view that Yahweh was originally a causative finite verb see Yahweh.
Import. The passage in Exodus 3:14 seems to furnish designedly a clue to the meaning of the word. When Moses received his commission to be the deliverer of Israel, the Almighty, who appeared in the burning bush, communicated to him the name that he should give as the credentials of his mission: "God said unto Moses, I am that I am [Heb. 'ehyeh 'asher 'ehyeh]: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I am hath sent me unto you" (KJV).
In both names 'ehyeh and YHWH, the root idea is that of underived existence. When it is said that God's name is He Is, simple being is not all that is affirmed. He is in a sense in which no other being is. He is, and the cause of His being is in Himself. He is because He is. But compare the etymology that Yahweh means "He causes to be"-"He creates" (P. Haupt and W. F. Albright's view). See Yahweh.
When Made Known. The notice in Exodus 6:3, "By my name Jehovah was I not known to them" (KJV), does not imply that the patriarchs were completely ignorant of the existence or the use of the name. It simply means that previous to their deliverance from Egyptian bondage they had no experiential knowledge of such redemption. Under Moses they were to experience such deliverance and have the redemptive power of God made real to them and the redemptive name of God vouchsafed to them. Previously, as shepherds in Palestine, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had known God as El Shaddai ("the Almighty," Genesis 17:1, KJV), proving His power, but not in redemption as such.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: W. Eichrodt, Theology of the Old Testament (1975), 1:187-92; J. Kitto, Daily Bible Illustrations (1981), 1:372-74.
(from The New Unger's Bible Dictionary. Originally published by Moody Press of Chicago, Illinois. Copyright (c) 1988.)
Now, if you don't like the truth I suggest you refrain from posting based on your ignorance and lack of understanding.
I have refuted your assumption with God's word as well as the above definition from a Trinitarian source.
As to what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians, if you deny what is written in plain language then be so kind as to explain what Paul wrote. Resorting to sarcasm when you cannot refute an arguement only shows you are incapable of engaging in a real debate.
Zoso, Jesus is our Savior and can save mankind because God's sovereign plan for our salvation revolves around the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus never claimed to be God. Jesus was clear He is the Son of God who can only do and teach what the Father (the only true and wise God) told Him to teach and do.
Does God have a God? If your answer is no then explain why Jesus said this:
John 20:17
17 Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren, and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" NAS
This agrees with this Messianic prophesy:
Psalms 89:20-27
20 "I have found David My servant;
With My holy oil I have anointed him,
21 With whom My hand will be established;
My arm also will strengthen him.
22 "The enemy will not deceive him,
Nor the son of wickedness afflict him.
23 "But I shall crush his adversaries before him,
And strike those who hate him.
24 "And My faithfulness and My lovingkindness will be with him,
And in My name his horn will be exalted.
25 "I shall also set his hand on the sea,
And his right hand on the rivers.
26 "He will cry to Me, 'Thou art my Father,
My God, and the rock of my salvation.'
27 "I also shall make him My first-born,
The highest of the kings of the earth. NAS
You might also try accepting God's word at face value instead of interpreting words, phrases, and Scriptures taken out of context to defend a doctrine developed by Greeks, not the apostles.