Trinity DebateBefore Abraham Was,I AMAineo wrote: how could you know that unless you read it? sounds like you're actively refusing to try and understand these things. indeed. as is the biblical stance that He is Divine (John 1:1-3; 14, 10:30-33; 34-39, 20:28, 1 Cor 8:6, Philipians 2:6, Hebrews 1:8, Revelations 1:8; 17-18, cf Isaiah 8:5, 9:6). nope: (John 1:1-3; 14, 10:30-33; 34-39, 20:28, 1 Cor 8:6, Philipians 2:6, Hebrews 1:8, Revelations 1:8; 17-18, cf Isaiah 8:5, 9:6). wrong again. you have done no such thing. and you've wielded this verse from Peter before, and you should realize that you're using it incorrectly. it's funny. the very verse you USE in order to say that we shouldn't interpret the Bible, you yourself INTERPRET WRONGLY. which is why you need to include verse 21 in there. it's saying that prophecy or "scripture" has never come from man but from God. it's not saying that we're not supposed to interpret what the Word says. we're not supposed to interpret it WRONGLY. if we interpret it RIGHTLY then there's no problem. this is almost a childish charge coming from a person as old and educated as yourself. you ought to know that NO PERSON is able to take the scriptures and read without interpretation. we are not omniscient and don't know everything so can only draw OUT of the Bible what it says. you need to understand the difference between EPISTEMOLOGY and ONTOLOGY. what we believe may be ONTOLOGICAL, but there's no way of KNOWING that for sure ONTOLOGICALLY unless we were omniscient. so there MUST be interpretation. and you, my friend, have interpreted the scriptures wrongly. i clearly qualified my "rhetoric" by saying "since YOU understand the first part of the verse to mean 'ONE' or 'ONLY' God, then you must apply that to the second part of the verse that deals with Christ being the 'ONE' or 'ONLY' Lord", implying that the Father is not Lord. but He IS. your reasoning has backfired against you. and you still haven't responded to what i said. could Jesus really be called "Lord" in the same way that the others were from your examples, given that He was sinless and perfect and demanded EQUAL HONOR AND PRAISE AS THE FATHER (John 5:22-23)? your objection fails, and you fail to admit it. and yet you have another God (John 20:28, Rev 1:8 ) since you reject the Divinity of Jesus. this is simply semantics. you need to qualify what way He is ONE and what way He is THREE. He's THREE in person, ONE in Nature. the scriptures clearly show this. you can keep trying to argue all you want and keep telling us that we don't take the whole Bible into consideration and keep misinterpreting verses to fit your beliefs, but it'll never change the fact that it's you who's mistaken. you didn't even interpret the verse from Peter accurately. how in the world do you suppose you got everything else right? |
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