Trinity DebateBefore Abraham Was,I AMAineo wrote: ahhh..."analogy". ok. STILL doesn't answer how "One Flesh" is used. there are several examples of this in the Bible, and indeed in our regular everyday experience. you can't really argue against it. it's there for everyone to see. you're being obtuse by trying so hard to get away from this. just stop. that's what it says and that's it. face it. it most certainly was. the couple times you challenged me, i told you that i accepted the MP except Proverbs 8. i told you that specifically. quit makin' stuff up. i did no such thing. here, let me look at 'em real quick. be right back... alright, i'm back. no disagreement there. next? i don't disagree with that either (except the last part). Jesus was FULLY human. how many times do i have to say that? and the last part was added by you. show me where it says He was the seed of a woman and NOT the see of God in the same passage or few passages. whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. when we talked about John 1:1, YOU said that the Word (logos) WAS God because it was God's Divine Plan and "thought" and that you can't separate a man's (God's) thoughts from that person. NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE WORD WAS CREATED FIRST????????????????? and if you're saying that, then how can ALL THINGS be created through the Word, if the Word was created too? if Jesus was created, and yet was the instrument of Creation, then that means that at least one thing (Jesus) wasn't created through Him. are you saying that John 1:1-3 is teaching lies??? the more you argue, the more problems you run into. fascinating. right, but you just horribly contradicted yourself just now. (i know you're gonna find some quirk of argument to get out of it though, you're pretty resourceful in that area). you need to be more consistent with your ideas. where in that passage does it say "Jesus didn't know what the Father was planning to reveal to John, so He waited for the Father to give Him the Revelation to give to John." where does it say that? what you've done it made a kind of an argument ad ignorantium. you've merely stated what it DOESN'T say (i.e. that Jesus is omniscient) and proceed to make your conclusion. forgetting all the while that i showed you that Jesus Himself says "I am the Alpha and the Omega". words which YOU said are only used of the Father. |
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