Trinity DebateBefore Abraham Was,I AMAineo wrote: thank you. now apply that to the first part of the same verse. "One God, the Father" does not preclude Jesus being Divine. and your view is held by even less people. there are some "Trinitarians" that believe in evolution, and even accept homosexuals and feel their lifestyle is ok, but we know they're wrong by scripture. same here. and YOU tell ME that I don't conduct myself in a "courteous and respectful manner"??? you're such a hypocrite. God considers them "one flesh" (Gen 2:24), and there is ONE church of Christ, composed of many people and One Truth. you're starting to misunderstand these concepts again and are making errors in logic and grammar. not necessarily. the "One" needs to be qualified. if we're talking about "One person", then we're talking about a single individual. if we're talking about "One couple", we're talking about two people UNDER the category of one. so it needs to be qualified and is not simply explained away by your false ideas. same with God. if God is a Being in relationship and community, then the phrase "One God" can mean the Trinity when qualified by the rest of Scripture. you need to think more clearly. you shouldn't have such a hard time understanding these concepts. they're not that difficult. wrong again. you keep appealing to general terms and try to extrapolate them into greater areas. these terms are qualified by the texts in which they are presented. you've made this mistake before and you continue to make it. on the contrary, i affirm the truth of that passage, i reject your interpretation of it. and i can say the same thing to you. you reject as well the parts of the Bible that reject your position also. however, you have a greater dilemma. to have God come in the form of a man is not blasphemy, but to have a man be called God and worshipped the same way is. my position makes more sense than yours and isn't blasphemous. sorry. you're right. i did forget to answer that question of yours in my last post (although i've answered it SEVERAL times before elsewhere). As God, no. as a man, yeah. since He humbled himself and took on the form of a servant (Philipians 2:6-8 ), then yes. he had a God. because He became like us in EVERY WAY: he was made like us in EVERY way. i don't know why that's so hard for you to understand. now, i have a question for you: can Jesus be called "Lord" in the same way that the other people you've mentioned were considering He was perfect and completely sinless? you continue to charge that the fact that Jesus was called "Lord" or even "THE Lord", that since others were too then it's not that big of a deal. but since perfection is an attribute of God, and the other people weren't perfect, could Jesus really be put into the same category as them? since He was Perfect, He isn't excluded from being Divine, while all the others were. can He really be put into the same category as them as you keep trying to do? i've asked you this 2 or 3 times before, and you haven't responded. be fair. if you want me to answer your questions, then answer mine after i address yours. (and also address what i challenged you with regarding Peter in my last post to you.) thanks. |
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