Christian/Muslim ThreadsDebunking Abdurrahman: Pauls corruption of Jesus ChristAbdurrahman wrote:
Kai responds: You are missing out the whole analogy here; it seems to me that you have or either quickly read through a text with out assessing its context or you are simply posting material from websites without knowing the sources they attempt to attack. You make the typical fallacy of separating Jesus and Paul on the matters of deeds and faith. First this particular passage of Christ states that the law will never be corrupted, a statement which contradicts your claim that the Law of Moses has been changed. Paul never rejected the importance of good works, as a matter of fact, with obedience and holy lifestyle you will never enter heaven, that is the teaching of Paul. Where you fail is to see the roots of the matter, that holy lifestyle is not the actual source of salvation but the sign of salvation. When Jesus on this particular occation and others emphasises the importance of holy lifestyle, he simply teaches what every Christian would agree upon. First that holiness is a sign of salvation but also that before his death and resurrection, following the law and faith in God was the way to salvation, even though it depended upon his future work of atonement. However, in this particular passage of Matthew 5 Jesus refers to himself as the one who has come to complete and fulfil the law. Here he virtually agrees with Paul that the law lacks something, which again is confirmed by the Old Testament itself. Look at Jeremiah 31: 31-34: John says: Thus the fulfilling of the law refers to a law which will operate on a much higher level than that of Moses; it will operate not as a written form which a individual has to strive to follow, but spiritually as a result of a spiritual transformation; that is what Christianity is all about. This is why Paul and Christianity as a whole, despite of its emphasis on the law of Moses perceives the law of Moses as childish and temporary. The same perception we have of Islam. When Jesus in Matthew 5: 17-19 speaks about breaking or keeping these commandments, he is not referring to the law of Moses but the new teaching of Kingdom, which greatly exceeds the law of Moses in every way; just look at the context, which confirms that. |
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