Christian/Muslim ThreadsWhy does Allah use the word We to refer to Himse
Theres just one problem, tell us H2O how the koran was collated? If Zaid or Uthman only required an oral transmission why didn't they just go to a hafeez or two and get them to recite while they write down why did they bother to collect the leaves, barks, animal skin "the quran was written upon"? It looks like H2O has been continuing in his usual vein of making it up as he goes along, first he tells us he became a muslim because of the prediction of saudi oil in sura 9:28 when showed that said verse has nothing of the sort he abandons the thread and hopes nobody notices that the basis of his faith is hanging by a thread, when pointed out by fellow muslims his interpretations, personal explanations and ridicule of islamic hadiths fly in the face of respected islamic imams and scholars, coming from an individual without a qualification to his name to interpret islam for anybody other than his ego and desire to patronize on each and every post anybody he suspects doesn't know arabic he simply retreats for a while and pops up when he hopes things have quietened down... Those meccan arabs must have some superb mental retention to memorise a 114 or was it 119 tome from end to end in a 23 span without having anything to read or write, when was the last time you memorised notes for the last 23 yrs without having so much as a piece of paper to jut things down in a 23 yr period??? Your comment at the beginning of this post has no basis in islam, let me get this straight we need an oral koran to proof text a written koran but we need a written koran to obtain an oral transmission? do you see our never ending loop? Maybe you should make up your own religion, it is becoming ridiculous the levels you are prepared to go to deceive, do you think allah will let you in the 70 houris a room jannah for lying like this? Or maybe this is a fabricated hadith??
Those who opposed the trinitarian doctrine subliminally somehow infers that they were closet muslims? Let us be clear what Ariuis believed that led to the council of Nicae to clear what was already MAINSTREAM christianity. 1) Jesus was the Son of God 2) He died on the cross 3) He was not human In the light of this please tell us how those 'unitarians' muslims like to shout about support the islamic cause? btw how is humble_guest these days? I remember he came up with the same argument about this phantom group of 'unitarians' who believed Jesus was just a prophet in the same vein as Mohammed and the trinitarians hunted them down and annhilated them totally until Mohammed came to resurrect the true doctrine, when pressed he refused to give us a name for this phantom group of 'unitarians' because if he had he wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. In case that is your argument the nestorians believed Jesus is the Father that was their heresy and is the heresy of unitarianism, nothing to do with the belief in one God as you would like your audience to think or maybe at this stage you will claim muslims understand unitarianism to be belief in one God and nothing more like you claimed when your allah/jibreel/Mohammed called Mary the mother of Jesus a literal "sister of Aaron" the brother of Moses. Do these bishops and whole 'nation' who opposed the trinitarian doctrine have a name? Would you care to tell us what name their doctrine was? Would it happen to be called Nestorianism? This is in essence what the heresy is: When Jesus said "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me" according to the nestorians He was talking to Himself because He is the Father does this make sense?, I am well aware muslims still use this argument against the trinity. |
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