Science, Creation & EvolutionEvolution VS Bible debateAlpha wrote:Non-Christian wrote:My dog has serious guilt problems which signifies he has a conscience. He also demonstrates spite, anger, happiness and love. all signs of conscience.
As far as Christianity being the only religion with faith grounded in evidence rather than blind faith...that's just lies.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all base their religion on the same premise of the Old Testament. The jews believe the Messiah hasn't come yet and the Muslims follow Muhammed instead of Jesus' teachings.
Your dog is strictly carnal and cannot use reasoning to get out of situations. Conscience is "motivation deriving from logic." Your dog cannot do that. It just reacts to whatever its nature tells it.
Cannot use reasoning? Have you ever had a dog? By your definition then baby's do not have a conscience, am I right? So when does the light of conscience enter the body?
Judaism is the Old Testament, and Islam tries to "base their religion on the same premise of the Old Testament." But with careful study, you will see that Christ fulfills the Old Testament prophecies in the New Testament, and Muhammed fulfills no prophecy. Not to mention that the Old Testament prophecies a New Testamnet, and the New Testament says even if an angel or man was to preach another gospel, let that person be accursed. Then 500 years later "God" supposedly changed His revelation by sending the "angel" Gabriel to Muhammed. God forewarns, He does not edit.
Then only religions that follow the new testament are correct? Never mind the old testament, right?
Non-Christian wrote:That Jesus lived yes, that he was the son of God, no.
There is archeological evidence of evolution. prophetic evidence is heresay and not evidence. Light of creation = the Sun? Light of conscience = self-awareness. Who's to say Man has a monopoly on this? (As shown vis-a-vis my dog.) These things are proof of nothing except belief. and that's what it comes down to. Ones beliefs.
But, never push belief as evidence as it won't hold up.
If you are going to say this, then atleast be fair like Jovaro. If the evidence for Christianity is not evidence but hearsay, then the same should be said for evolution. But hearsay does not exist in Christianity, because God says you can test Him to get rid of all that. Evolution does not give you guidelines for you to test it as truth, but God gives you guidelines so you can know that He is true.
I often go fossil hunting with my children, I have yet to find evidence of God or the bible in the rocks. Not even a small crucifix, just shells mostly.
Evolution actually DOES give you guidelines...it says simpler life forms came before more complex lifeforms and the older the rock you look in, the simpler the lifeforms you find. Thus, giving you a guidline.
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