Alpha wrote:Jovaro wrote:Of course there is nothing wrong that God is the answer on the big why question.
But it is wrong to neglect that there can be other answers as well.
You say a conscience can not have evolved.
Why not? I don't think it evolved, but I don't see why it couldn't have.
Having a conscience proves absolutely nothing.
Did we get it from God during creation? Or maybe from Allah? Was it Jupiter who did it when he was trying to piss of some other roman gods?
Maybe it was the enlightened dolphin in the holy seas of Per Dur? A'tuin the big turtle with the four elephants on his back?
No way to know, so stupid to say it is proof for the Creation.
As said. It proves nothing!
Do not compare belief in Jupiter, the enlightened dolphin, and the big turtle to belief in the God of the Holy Bible. Christianity is the only religion with faith grounded in evidence rather than blind faith. And yes, having a conscience does prove something as has already pointed out to you with the lady and the stroller example.
My dog has serious guilt problems which signifies he has a conscience. He also demonstrates spite, anger, happiness and love. all signs of conscience.
As far as Christianity being the only religion with faith grounded in evidence rather than blind faith...that's just lies.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all base their religion on the same premise of the Old Testament. The jews believe the Messiah hasn't come yet and the Muslims follow Muhammed instead of Jesus' teachings.
Alpha wrote:Non-Christian wrote:As I was reading "Darwin's Demise", I ran upon this very telling quote:
The fact that many people believe evolution is true is not enough to prove it.
This is the only basis of creationism. A lot of people believe it. Other than belief, there is ZERO proof for creationism.
There is archaeological evidence, prophetic evidence, the light of creation, and the light of conscience to support Christianity. Our faith is not blind faith. And what does evolution have to offer? It does not tell us what to do to test if it's true, but God tells us to test Him. So unless you take God's challenge, you are without excuse.
That Jesus lived yes, that he was the son of God, no.
There is archeological evidence of evolution. prophetic evidence is heresay and not evidence. Light of creation = the Sun? Light of conscience = self-awareness. Who's to say Man has a monopoly on this? (As shown vis-a-vis my dog.) These things are proof of nothing except belief. and that's what it comes down to. Ones beliefs.
But, never push belief as evidence as it won't hold up.