Trinity DebateJesus as the embodied pre-existent Son
Reread my previous responses here. I have explained what Phillipians 2 means many times. If you're not satisfied after doing that, then I'll do that for you. First of all, the verse John 17:3, according to the NAB commentary: 4 [3] This verse was clearly added in the editing of the gospel as a reflection on the preceding verse; Jesus nowhere else refers to himself as Jesus Christ. This verse might not even be the words of Jesus. But anyways, I believe this verse means, if Jesus did say this, that the Father is the Godhead and alone wills things as God, and we are to understand this about Him. Nothing is with out His desire, nothing happens without His consent. Understand, sir, that my argument here is that Jesus is a preexistent being and far older than humans by an eternity. Jesus in no way says He is not God by this statment, if you understand it. Paul equates the Father and the Son as the same being, if you read that passage. You're just not seeing that Jesus is one in being with the Father, having this God nature and being an eternal, preexistent being. What are these verses saying? John 6:62 What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? John 3:13 No one has gone up to heaven except the one who has come down from heaven, the Son of Man |
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