Trinity DebateJesus as the embodied pre-existent SonBeliever, your explanation of Philippians 2:5ff is, as you posted an interpretation of those verses that deny the context of the verses as well as the meaning of Koine Greek words. As I posted earlier the Koine Greek word translated "form" is "morphe", which in the Koine meant "station in life". Kenneth S. Wuest, himself a Trinitarian explains the Koine usage in his book The Practical Use of the Greek New Testament, p. 84. Now, with this understanding of "morphe" we can discern that Paul is teaching that we like the Lord should humble ourselves before the only true God the Father. This is reiterated in the NT by the Lord as well as by Paul:[/quote]John 17:3 3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent. NAS Romans 16:25-27 25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, 26 but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith; 27 to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, be the glory forever. Amen. NAS Galatians 3:20 20 Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. NAS[/quote]The above is just a sampling of the fact the Father is referred to as the only true and wise God who anointed Jesus as our Prince and Savior. How can Jesus say what He said in John 3? The same way Paul and John wrote what was revealed to them by the Lord and by God Himself. David, in Psalms 110 speaks of future events and with supernatural knowledge of events yet future. Now since Jesus is God's predetermined plan (logos in Greek, memra in Hebrew), and God spoke all that exists into existence we can understand that it was God's thoughts, which included His predetermined plan created the universe. Also, Jesus is the prophet foretold by Moses when he said: God is not a prophet like Moses. You say I am ripping the Bible apart when in fact I am letting the Bible explain the Bible not ripping select verses out of context in an attempt to prove that Jesus is God. You appeal to interpretations while ignoring what Peter wrote concerning God's word: There is no teachings found in Scripture that ever refer to the Son as "God the Son". This title is a clever rearrangement of the actual words inspired by the Holy Spirit. This is like Satan's deception of Eve when he subtely reworded what God said. What started as a false teaching was reinforced with excommunication and death by men who by their own actions demonstrated they were not led by the Spirit but by pagan philosophies adopted from their pagan cultures. Timothy did not have access to future rhetoric that labels Peter, Paul, John, and even the Lord as liars. There is not a single verifiable Scripture that teaches God is three not one. Paul praised the Bereans for searching the Scriptures daily to see if what he taught was true. No since you cannot find the Trinity in the OT why would Paul praise people who checked out Paul's teaching in the only Scriptures available to them? And before you appeal to the use of plural pronouns in reference to God we must understand the use of plurals of majesty, which is how the Hebrews understand the use of those few instances where God says "we", "us", and "our". Heaven Bound, I think the above makes my position clear and why I now reject the Trinity as a valid doctrine. |
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