Trinity DebateJesus as the embodied pre-existent SonWhat I believe, sir, comes from the Bible, not Greek philosophy. I agree that God knows all things, and knew what would happen before all was created. The order of things stated in these two verses, I believe, are on purpose. Jesus emptied Himself and came to earth as a human being. You're analysis lacks depth. You don't seem to make the connection between Jesus's description as existing in the form of God BEFORE He came into this world. This passage is very indicative of a preexistent Christ. John 3:13 No one has gone up to heaven except the one who has come down from heaven, the Son of Man. John 6:33;51;62 For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world." 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world." 62 What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? These support Jesus's preexistence, also. They support the age-old interpretation of Phillipians 2. Really, how can you not believe Jesus is a preexistent being? He tells us that He is. He tells us that He came down from Heaven. He tells us that He will ascend to where He was before, that's so self-explanatory! The verse is very short and leaves almost no room to elaborate on. All it says, basically, is that Jesus is the first and last. It can be used to support Jesus's preexistence. If you want to place so much elaboration on it, it may mean other things. |
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