absolutetruth wrote:You accuse me of not understanding your posts and then you either don't understand what I post or your so locked into your traditional beliefs you cannot see the forest for the trees.
i've responded to everything you've said. you haven't responded to everything i've said. you just choose what you want to respond to. the really diffucult things you ignore. i'm gonna post 'em all again after this and show you what i'm talking about.
Really, when are you going to respond to the Messianic prophecies I posted? You are avoiding a lot of my posts.
Does God have a God? If you have answered this question I missed it,
i don't know how you missed it. i've had to repeat it several times for you cuz you bring up the SAME objections time and time again. to us, for all practical purposes, and while on earth, Jesus DID have a God. this is how He's mostly referred to in the NT. in His earthly image in our sight, in relation to us. but other verses go further (John 1:1, John 10:30;33)
If Jesus is God then someone forgot to tell Paul and they also forgot to tell Jesus.
not really:
Philipians 2:6-8:
6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
John 10:30-33:30
30I and the Father are one."
31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
they both understood QUITE well.
Lets start with John 10, which will answer what you posted concerning Philippians 2. What was Jesus response to the Jews? He quoted this Psalm:
Psalms 82:6
6 I said, "You are gods,
And all of you are sons of the Most High. NAS
Jesus then corrected them by stating He is the Son of God, not God. Now, as to Philippians 2:6-8. You need to toss that NIV and get a word-for-word translation. The Greek word the NIV translates nature is:
NT:3444
morfee, morfees, hee
the form by which a person or thing strikes the vision; the external appearance: Philippians 2:6
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 2000 by Biblesoft)
God created all mankind in the form or image of God. Now lets look at Philippians 2 in a word-for-word translation:
Philippians 2:5-11
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. NAS
I don't see that we are to confess that Jesus Christ is God, do you? This brings me back to the Messianic prophecies you have ignored and refused to respond to.
Psalms 110:1
The LORD says to my Lord:
"Sit at My right hand,
Until I make Thine enemies a footstool for Thy feet." NAS
Now, who is David's Lord? "Yehovah says to my Lord", not Yehovah says to my God.
In Acts Peter preached:
Acts 2:36
36 "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ-- this Jesus whom you crucified." NAS
In Acts 10:42 we read that God
appointed Jesus as the Judge of the living and the dead. In Hebrews we read that God has
appointed Jesus as His heir and our High Priest. Odd don't you think that God is appointing God to positions of authority? No, God appointed a Man to positions of authority just as Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 2:5 that the Man Jesus is the only mediator between God and man.