amdntstr wrote:Look in the above scriptures that I posted. Here I will again quote myself:
Jesus is the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Actually this should read "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." The fact you changed God's word is rather disconcerting.
Does the Bible tell us Jesus created the world or that God created through Jesus? Again you are changing and/or interpreting how the Bible acutally reads and you did not respond to what I posted concerning how we are saved.
Now, as to Genesis:
Genesis 1:26-27
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." 27 And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. NAS
Read vs. 27 where the pronouns change from us and our to His.
What was Jesus' Hebrew name? It was not Immanuel it was Yashuah, which means God is Salvation, not God is with us. You quoted Matthew 1:23, which is a quote from Isaiah:
Isaiah 7:14-16
14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel. 15 "He will eat curds and honey at the time He knows enough to refuse evil and choose good. 16 "For before the boy will know enough to refuse evil and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread will be forsaken.
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Does God need to learn to refuse evil and choose good?
absolutetruth, what makes you think I agree that Jesus is God? And amdntstr if what you posted is all you have to prove your point then you had better get some more information. Also your logic behind why Jesus is Lord and God is Lord equates to Jesus being God is a bit fallacious. In the OT David, Saul, and many other men are called Lord due to their position as king.
Paul wrote:
Romans 5:12-16
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned-- 13 for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification.
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1 Timothy 2:5-7
5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony borne at the proper time. 7 And for this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth. NAS
Newcastle_r_united, has posted a valid question and raised an interesting question. Does the Bible teach Jesus is God or is this concept a manmade doctrine? There is a lot of evidence in the Bible that Jesus was and still is a man and not God.