Christian/Muslim ThreadsNo Proof Quran Copied from Bible, Gnostic or Jewish SourcesTo Liberate:
Please see para (1) above. Tisdall did not provide any proof if the apocryphal was available or not available to the Prophet at Mecca. Show me how I can be wrong here. Yes, the main objective of his book is to show the readers that Muhammad (pbuh) got his sources from the apocryphals. However, it seems strange that he quickly deviate from discussing the textual evidence of the Arabic Gospel of Infancy and jumps to the possible oral transmission thru Mary the Copt. To prove once and for all that Tisdall did not think that Muhammad (pbuh) or his 'teachers' copied directly from the Arabic Gospel of Infancy and hence my argument that the apocryphal was not available at Mecca at that time, pls read below: http://answering-islam.org.uk/Books/Tis ... /chap4.htm 3) Linerate's famous question: It is like asking, how do you plead guilty? It is a question that demands an answer which is damaging to the defendant. NO. I do not think there was any plagiarism and it is the onus of the Christians to prove there was plagiarism in the first place. 4) Another of Liberate's misinterpretation (He really has a knack of making silly statements) Quote: As Liberate mentioned, the apocryphals that the Arabic Gospel of Infancy was based dated 2nd Century onwards. It is possible to be 5th and 6th Century as Liberate has kindly shown the readers: Quote: Now, that is quite damaging. 5) The Arabic Gospels of Infancy was supposed to be derived from earlier apocryphals. Why should I be surprised if the copy is PARAPHRASED ALMOST VERBATIM? 6) I am not sure what BS you are talking about when we speak of Quraish Arabic. When I talk about Quraish Arabic, I was referring to the spoken language and style of the Quraish people. The Arabic Gospel of Infancy was not written in that style. The earlier copy of the Quran without diacritical symbols does not mean it is not Quraish or in the style that the Quran was revealed. 7) Surah Al An'am Chapter 6 talks about Oneness of God and Life after Death which have been told by earlier prophets and the story is repeated in the Quran. The Unbelievers said "These are nothing but tales of the ancients." (Quran 6:25) How was this related to the childhood of Jesus or the Arabic Gospel Infancy? Similarly for Surah 8:31 and 46:17 where there was no refernce to teh childhood of Jesus. 8) I know about Sirat Rasullah, But I do not have any text from that source to verify what you wrote. Or can I take it that you do not have the original or reference to Ibn Ishaq Sirat Rasullah? I am waiting for your reply not stalling the matter. 9) How is this topic in discussion has anything to do with your 'wet nurse'. Are you trying to divert the attention of the readers to your absence of proof? 10) Rest of it are the frustations of a Christians who certainly is lacking of ideas. salam |
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