animeworshiper wrote:Okay Aineo. You are 60 and I am 16. However, you said that in your experiences you've concluded that the gay lifestyle is destructive emotionally, physically, and spiritually. In knowing a single example of one such relationship that is not destructive emotionally, physically, and spiritually, I prove that it's not the lifestyle that takes on those attributes, but the people involved. If I know a single gay couple that lives happily without harming eachother or their neighbors, then that means your claim was simply based on "destructive" gays, rather than "all" gays. I know that not all gays are good people, but I know that some are.

Who said anything about gay or lesbian people being bad? If I was to look at society and judge who lives the worse lifestyle it would be a toss up between gay and straight. It is not the people who are good or bad; it is the lifestyle they live. Some straights live bad lifestyles, just look at the divorce rate it is almost 50%, Some gays are involved in loving monogamous relationships, but the average length of a gay relationship is 18 months, the average length of a lesbian relationship is less than 12 months; according to a study done in the Netherlands (since gay marriages have become legal) the gay community has a greater incidence of depression, suicide, mental problems; according to the Journal of Epidemiology gay men shorten their lifespan by 20 years, and suffer from some diseases that are found almost exclusively among gay men; and the gay community has a greater incidence of STD’s for its numbers than the straight community. A little research will show that gay sex is emotionally, physically, and spiritually destructive.

As to my experience it covers years of being part of the gay community from California to Missouri and from Texas to Colorado. You know a few gay people and I know thousands so your knowledge needs to be expanded through knowledge, education, and not just personal experience.

I know that not all heterosexuals are good people, either. There are heterosexuals who abuse their children and eachother. That doesn't mean that I'm about to start saying "all heterosexuals are destructive." Simply having a lifetime's worth of experiences in one way or another can't prove for the entire group. Heck, the Klu Klux Klan thought they were Christian. That doesn't mean all Christians are destructive, though sometimes I begin to think otherwise. After all, the Crusades did kill quite a few people. The damnation of people based on sexual orientation and ethnic background. Being prejudiced against others is a common theme in a lot of Christian people, but I'm not about to judge the entire group.

Ah yes, the Crusades, a land grabbing action by European royal houses that used Christianity as a means to an end, the KKK is a small group of people who abuse the Bible, and many Christian’s judge the lost without Biblical authority. Study the Bible and you will see that what you believe about us is based on prejudice and false doctrine taught by splinter groups.

So, in 32 years of the lifestyle, you've found it destructive. Well, in about 5 years of understanding the lifestyle, I've found that it is not destructive. The individuals involved, rather than the lifestyle itself, make it destructive or not destructive. Just how a gun, in my hands, would be virtually harmless whereas a gun in the hands of a murderer could be very dangerous. Guns aren't destructive. They're just tools.

Understanding the lifestyle? What do you understand about homosexuality other than what you have seen? How many books have you read on both sides of the issue; how many ex-gay have you talked to? Just how much research have you done into empirical studies about homosexuality that are written without bias? How many 40+ year old gay men and lesbian women do you know who live in frustration and depression because they have lost their looks and are no longer attractive to their peers?

My oldest niece is a lesbian and has been in a relationship for 12 years, yet she deals with depression that is so bad she is 75 lbs overweight and her depression has nothing to do with lack of acceptance from our family since none of us judge her. My lesbian cousin is under psychiatric care for drug and alcohol abuse that has nothing to do with societal or family acceptance since we don’t judge her for her lifestyle and as far as she is concerned society can go to hell in a hand basket. I have more gay friends who suffer from clinical depression than I do straight friends, all of this is based on the gay lifestyle and the transitory emotionally attachments they make or are afraid to make while looking for true intimacy, love, acceptance, and affirmation not from society in general but from the gay community itself.

There is a novel written about 25 years ago titled “Boys in the Band” it is about a birthday party for a gay man. This book, if you can find it, portrays gay life better than anything I have ever read; and it not complimentary because it is truthful.