Both of you guys seem to fail to understand the Deity of Christ, of course He is fully God and Man. Of course Jesus will be called the Everlasting Father as stated By Isaiah the prophet. Once again I will demonstrate how the both of you fail to see the oneness relation wise and not in number.John 17:23 - I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Omega are you denying that Jesus is Yahweh in Flesh? Because you clearly do.
If the Father became the Son then you have an enormous problem, lets examine this verse very carefully. There is (NOW WAY) out of this one.
John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which (I had with thee before the world was.)
So how is it possible that the Father became the Son by switching roles If the Son shared the Glory with the Father BEFORE the World???????
Has it occured to you maybe that the Father became the Son in order to demonstrate to us what kind of relationship he wants to have with us; Father-Son relationship. Would It be Impossible for God to do this, I don't think so but you clearly state here that GOD HAS LIMITATIONS.
Here I will even correct you,
5And now, Father, glorify Me along with Yourself and restore Me to such majesty and honor in Your presence as I had with You before the world existed.
6 I have manifested Your Name [I have revealed Your very Self, Your real Self] to the people whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, and You gave them to Me, and they have obeyed and kept Your word.
He revealed himself to man kind through Jesus, Jesus was not a second generation Diety he is Yahweh, the same diety that manifested himself to Moses and the Jews at mount Sinai. You're clearly saying that Jesus was a God other then Yahweh, you can't get around that fact.
Try as you guys may, the only interpretation you guys will come up with will be your own understanding. I love both you guys and am concered that you be not deceived by false teachers that are prevalent in this modern church age. With deceitful and fancy words they twist God into a pretzel, being incomprehensible to fathom with common logic.(John 12:43 - For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.) God is not the author of confusion my friends. I respond to you because I love God with All my heart and if I don't then I am a LIAR, I am here to Glorify God in Spirit and in Truth and to take out the garbage that has infiltrated our Church.
In order for me to belive you, you would have to supply to me evidance that says Yahweh is not capable of manifesting himself; you're using a doctarine to define scripture this is wrong and I fear that you have been brainwashed by this sort of deceiving propaganda.
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