Christian/Muslim ThreadsTrinity ~ God is One not 3!Hello Sevryn45! I was not going to respond anymore but I was drawn by your sudden gain of understanding of the word Unity. I have already made a comparison of the word "One" which is the same Greek word used in these two verses, read it carefully and see for yourself.
After being baptized, *Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw *the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him, and behold, *a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." Mt 3,16-17; So please tell me who was speaking to Jesus the Son? Was it Jesus Himself? Do you not see the Father, Son and Spirit in unity here??? John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee "before"4253{pro} the world was. Once again for the Third time please explain to me if Jesus the Son is the Father then How is it the Son shared the Glory with the Father BEFORE the foundation of the World, this means BEFORE the incarnation. There isn't a single person who claims that Jesus is the Father can refute this, because it cannot be. It is only in their obstinate mind that they refuse to be corrected. God is three divine eternal persons who are co-equal and in absolute accordance with each other{perichoresis}.
Oneness adherents claim that it was the Father which was manifested when the Bible makes it crystal clear that the person of God that was manifested was"THE SON". It was the Son who had been manifested{5319 phaneroo:to make actual and visible, be realised or to make known by teaching, of a person, to show one's self, appear or to become known, to be plainly recognised and thoroughly understood.The Eternal "life" that was manifested was (with) the Father as stated in this verse here:
Furthermore in this passage in Scripture it reads:Hebrews 1:8 - But unto (the Son) he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. So if the Sons Throne endures forever then what about the Fathers? John 12:28 - Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. We can clearly see here that this proves without any lingering shadow of a doubt that one who is hearing Jesus could ever state that it was the Spirit of His Father in Jesus that was speaking to Him. This voice came from Heaven. Do you or do you not see these crystal clear examples I have shown you. Jesus is clearly conversing to His Father in HEAVEN from EARTH! I am weary as of now because all scriptural proofs have been given unto you and little progress has been made and am working double the amount of time that I used to at work, but I will bear with you if you are willing to accept the facts that I have presented which is sheer common sense. For some strange reason my post almost got deleted after all this proof I compiled, wonder why??? If you Truly Love God as you claim you do then you should know Him on a personal Level, which means that you know what I am talking about when I refer to God as Three Eternal Persons. One day you will understand if you Honestly seek Him with "all your heart!" GOD BLESS! |
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