beads wrote:God's condemnation of anyone including babies has nothing to do with whether or not they have an understanding of the concept of salvation. The point is that God chooses to save or condemn whomever He wants for whatever reason He wants, and we are in no position to question His reasons.
Do you realise what you have just said?
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy
Don't you think that this verse displays that you are questioning God?
beads wrote:What I said fits well into the scripture you posted, but it doesn't fit well into the position you are taking. The scripture says God will have mercy on whomever He wants. But the position you are taking says that God has no choice when it comes to babies - you say He must have mercy on them.
Nobody says that he must as to that He will , do you understand where I am coming from?
beads wrote:You did not explicitly say that Jesus doesn't have the authority to send babies to hell, but it is implied when you state that God must have mercy on babies. You are implying that God cannot choose to not have mercy on a baby, thus Jesus cannot send them to hell. This is the position you are taking, like it or not.
, look above beads what I have just wrote to you.
beads wrote:Do you believe that the gift is just out there floating around as it were and anyone who wants to can take it? Or do you believe that the Spirit draws people to the gift and that only those who are drawn to it can receive it, i.e. those who are not drawn by God will not receive it no matter what? If you believe the former (which I think you do), then you are saying that you initiated your salvation. The gift was there offered to all, but you took the first step towards it in the action of receiving it. This constitutes working.
Definition of works according to the Bible and not according to man.
3167 megaleios
meg-al-i'-os; magnificent, i.e. (neuter, plural as noun) a conspicuous favor, or (subjectively) perfection:--great things, wonderful works.
Can you find how accepting Gods Free Gift is constituted as works within this greek translation?
beads wrote:It's unjust. Praise God, it's unjust! If God were just, we'd all be in hell right now. God is sovereign, as you know and have posted before. Therefore, he has the right to fill whomever He wants to with the Spirit. It is His prerogative to choose whomever He wants and we are in no position to question that. In my human eyes, I say it's unfair/unjust for anyone, especially babies, to go to hell. I think we should all go to heaven. But to God, fair and just is to send everyone to hell because we're all guilty of sin. Is it unfair that God has chosen me, but not one of my co-workers? Absolutely. But, it's not unfair to them because they deserve hell (as do I). It's unfair to me because I don't deserve God's condemnation of anyone including babies has nothing to do with whether or not they have an understanding of the concept of salvation. The point is that God chooses to save or condemn whomever He wants for whatever reason He wants, and we are in no position to question His reasons.
Let me make this clear as possible,it is not a must that God will automatically send babies to Heaven but it is His decision whether He wants to send all babies to Heaven with His righteous judgment! So if He wants to send all babies to Heaven and to grant mercy upon whomever He wants as the verse in Romans states, do you question it? {
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