Christian/Muslim ThreadsDICTATED and BORROWING theory
He is applying the widely held judgment of scholars, both Muslim and secular scholar, that not a single extant manuscript of Quran is dated earlier than 150 years after Mohammed's death. If you do not accept the verdict of scholars, this would not make it a problem for Apple Pie's case. It has been noted here your belief the Samarqand codex was Uthmans personal Quran is traditional, not reality. If you want to make the case the time period between the developed Quran and Mohammed was too short for borrowing to have occurred then submit more evidence than tradition. What is this historical evidence you keep taking about? If you have it, use it in your argument to disprove borrowing. Christians know the Bible has a history, we do not make the claim it fell out of the sky. Christians complain when Muslims what to impose their criterion on the Bible then they become upset (like you are) when the Quran is subjected to analysis. The development of Quran is exactly what Apple Pie speaking on. You do not use any information except for what supports your agenda. And just because anywhere you can find information on UFO's doesn't mean they exist. Yes sir, what a prince you are and I just fell off the turnip truck. No we are not children so quit making arguments(?) that would insult even the intelligence of a child. Your demands the perpetrator be indentified, his motives and character be explained before plagiarizing can be proven, is stonewalling, nothing more. However you need look no further than Islam's hero, Dr. Maurice Bucaille, for example of man without conviction. Neither is Old English Lexicon talking about Shakespeare but nevertheless a tool for interpreting his works. You've made no point here. I said, side, not site. And if you meant to say, side, then you have no credibility whatsoever That is correct, who cares. You cannot bring any person from that era for trial and punishment. He or they are now nothing but dust. In your judgment Apple Pie is pushing the interpretation, but your judgment is not the only one which matter. The extent of your argument is imposing fictional conditions and mythical historical evidence on Apple Pie's case. It would helpful to keep track of things you have said and what Muslims say about Quran and Arabic language; In reply to Newseed, the sliminess of Quran is a hallmark, in reply to me, you claimed the entire Bible (Torah and Injil) is summarized in Quran. Muslims want people to believe Arabic is magically language to translate the word sense in another language would take an entire page or pages of words (much like you did on matter of Holiness). Not least of all, the wonderful brevity of Quran. Of course, all this magic suddenly disappears when they are effectively used against Quran. I believe that you really believe counter argument was made. joseph |
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