CONCERNING ISLAM THE SITUATION IS RATHER DIFFERENT
I was able to trace the history of Islamic atrocities back to sources which lay the foundation for the Islamic faith.
MY CHALLENGE TO YOU IS, IF YOU CAN POST ME THE EVIDENCES OF THE ATTROCITIES OF CHRIST, THE DISCIPLES AND THE EARLY CHURCH, THEN YOU HAVE MADE A POINT.
BUT LET’S DO A COMPARISON:
Islam TEACHES the Muslim to fight the pagans, the Jews and Christians and submit them:
9:29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Islam is to fight those who worship idols, until none are left
2:193 Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme. But if they desist, fight none except the evil doers.
Muslims are to be hard and harsh with those who do not believe:
9:123 O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you
48:29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe (or ruthless, vehement) against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves.
Muslims are not allowed to agociate peace with the enemy:
47:35 So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islam), while you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and will never decrease the reward of your good deeds.
Muslims are told to engage in Jihad even though they do not like it:
2:216 Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.
There is a reward for those who engage in Jihad
4:95 Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward;
You cannot exclude genocide from the Jihad commanded by the Koran:
When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to accept Sad's judgment, Allah's Apostle sent for Sad who was near to him. Sad came, riding a donkey and when he came near, Allah's Apostle said (to the Ansar), "Stand up for your leader." Then Sad came and sat beside Allah's Apostle who said to him. "These people are ready to accept your judgment." Sad said, "I give the judgment that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as prisoners." The Prophet then remarked, "O Sad! You have judged amongst them with (or similar to) the judgment of the King Allah." (Sahih Bukhari 4.280)
According to Muhammad killing the male unbelievers and enslaving the
women and children (e.g. for sexual purposes as I will point out later in this post) is a judgement similar to the judgement of Allah; in other words
THIS IS DIVINE WISDOM, or what?
Even children could be included
Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
IF CHRISTIANITY IS SUCH A RELIGION OF EVIL AS YOU ARE PROPOSING, YOU PLEASE POST TO US THE PASSAGES FROM THE NEW TESTAMENTS, FROM THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES WHICH OBLIGATE OR ENCOURAGE, WAR, INVASION, SUBMISSION OF ENEMIES AND KILLING.
I HAVE JUST PROVEN TO YOU THAT ISLAM, NOT ONLY IN ITS HISTORY BUT PRIMARILY THROUGH ITS HOLY WRITINGS DEMANDS SUCH EVIL AND SUCH ATTROCITIES.
The genocide of Jews
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW US FROM THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST AND FROM JESUS WHERE WE AS CHRISTIANS ARE TOLD OR EVEN ENCOURAGED TO HATE OR KILL JEWS?
The killing of women and children IN ISLAM
Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4321:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US WHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WE ARE
TOLD TO ATTACK OUR ENEMIES, KILL THE MEN AND GIVE A HECK IF WE KILL THEIR WOMEN AND CHILDREN?
AND WHAT DID MUHAMMAD MEAN BY: THEY ARE OF THEM, IS IT NOT BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF A MUSLIM HAS MORE VALUE THAN THAT OF A NON-MUSLIM?
2) However the Islamic ideology goes far beyond social life in its functioning hatred and prejudice. For example, according to Islam the blood of a Muslim has more value than that of a Christian, thus a Muslim must not be punished for the murder of a Christian or non-Muslim (Ibn Hazm, vol.8, p.39).
WHERE DO YOU FIND SUCH RACISTIC EVIL IN THE NEW TESTAMENT? COULD YOU PLEASE POST THE PASSAGES?
Islam and the Jews
Islam is utterly racistic in its dealing with the Jews. According to Islam, Jews are considered to be the party of Satan, Muslims are not to befriend them, and finally the butchering of all Jews is inevitable.
98:6 Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islam, the Quran and Prophet Muhammad) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikun will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.
5:51 O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya' to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya', then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong¬doers and unjust).
58:19. Shaitan (Satan) has overtaken them (the Jews). So he has made them forget the remembrance of Allah. They are the party of Shaitan (Satan). Verily, it is the party of Shaitan (Satan) that will be the losers!
4:76 Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut (Satan, etc.). So fight you against the friends of Shaitan (Satan); Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaitan (Satan).
Now we talk about racism, then the whole idea of black slavery was an idea which originated in Islam, centuries before the idea ever came to the European continent:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 15, Number 103:
Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of 'Aisha:
On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine and the Prophet was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them and the Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, "Leave them, for these days are the days of 'Id and the days of Mina." 'Aisha further said, "Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said, 'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'."
Hence we also have a clear evidence that Muhammad and his companions engaged in slave trade, and at this particular point the slaves were even displayed in the Mosque.
DID Jesus ever capture or sell slaves?
DID Paul ever capture or sell slaves?
Where slaves displayed for sail in the early New Testament churches?
In Islam, slaves were taken, displayed, and sold
NOW ACCORDING TO THIS, WHICH RELIGION APPEARS MORE ATTRACTIVE?
COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW US WHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SUCH EVIL AND RACISM IS ENCOURAGED?
In addition to the article I posted above here are some more details about the killing of Christians at the hand of Muslims:
A brief summary of Jihad in terms of fighting Christians (the last 700 years)
1300-1924 Ottoman Empire when Christians were subjugated the most, thus best example for us today!
1300-1700: Janissary Corps = Boys kidnapped, forced to convert, drafted for life, and then forced to kill their families.
1683: Austria burnt villages, enslaved women/children/working men; decapitated sick/old; sacked churches; trampled crucifixes (Peter Earle:261)
1842: Kurds killed 10,000 Assyrian Christian men, and enslaved 10,000 women and children (Death of a Nation pp.111-112)
1847: massacred 30,000 Assyrian Christians
1860: slaughtered 28,900 Christians in Lebanon and Syria between April-July.
1876: butchered 12,000 Christians in Bosnia in May alone (Fisher:1040; Stokes:205)
1894-1896: wiped out over 300,000 Armenian and Assyrian Christians by Abdul Hamid II (Peacock:267-268).
1915: murdered 1,500,000 Armenian & 250,000 Assyrian Christians: women raped/crucified (have pictures), children enslaved, yet 200,000 who converted were spared! Churches made into barns. Reason: Armenians were in Russian army, but so were Turks, an no Assyrians. Also 250,000 Armenians fought in the Ottoman army (Land and Walker:7)
HOW ABOUT THE SEXUAL ATTROCITIES IN ISLAM WHICH ARE RELATED TO JIHAD:
Rape of female slaves
Sura 70:22-30; 23:5-6; 4:24 give full permission for the Muslims to rape their female slaves (the girls taken in war). In Sura 33:50 a special permission is given for Muhammed.
"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..." (Sura 23: 5-6)
"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you (Sura 4: 24).
According to Tabari vol.39, p.194 the ruler of Alexandria gave a young Christian girl as a gift to Muhammad, her name was Mariyam. Muhammad never married her but used to sleep with her, and she even gave birth to a son who died after 18 months..
WHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ARE CHRISTIANS ENCOURAGED TO MAKE WAR UPON THEIR ENEMIES OR DIFFERENT THINKING, TAKE THEIR WOMEN AS SLAVES AND CONTINUALLY RAPE THEM.
COULD YOU PLEASE POST SIMILAR PASSAGES FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT...
WHAT ISLAM PERMITS IS SICK, IT LITERALLY MAKES VOMIT; HERE JUST ONE REASON IN RELATION TO THE SAME MATTER:
According to Sahih Bukhari vol.5#637 Ali had sex with a slave girl whom he saw and found beautiful, and Muhammad seemed to have no objections.
Narrated Buraida: The prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (part of the war booty) and I hated Ali, and Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave girl from the Khumus). I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. Ali)? When we reached the prophet I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him for he deserves more than that from the Khumus." (Sahih Bukhari, vol.5, #637)
IN WHAT SENSE, SINCE ALI DESERVE MORE THAN RAPING A SLAVE GIRL FROM KHUMUS, DOES IT MEAN THAT MUSLIMS HAVE THE RIGHT TO RAPE AND EVEN TAKE FURTHER STEPS IN ATTROCITIES AS IT FITS THEM?
BUT THERE IS MORE, HOW ABOUT THE RAPE OF FEMALE CAPTIVES:
According to Sahih Bukhari vol.9#506; Sahih Muslim vol.2#3371 Muhammad’s followers used to come to Muhammad after battles, to seek permission and advise to engage in sexual activity with the girls taken in battle. They doubted for several reasons, however, permission was granted.
At one point Muhammad gave them permission and told them that it is up to Allah who gets created anyway, thus permission was given.
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence." (Sahih Bukhari, vol.3, # 432) (further reference Bukhari Vol. 3, #718)
Notice that the companions of Muhammad had doubt due to fear of loosing money for selling pregnant slaves
THIS PROVES THAT THE INTENTION WAS RAPE NOT MARRIAGE, AS SOME MUSLIMS ASSERT
Permission was EVEN granted BY the Koran:
"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..." (Sura 33: 50)
IN OTHER WORDS, AFTER THESE FEMALE CAPTIVES WHOSE HUSBANDS, FATHERS AND BROTHERS HAD JUST BEEN KILLED BY THEIR MUSLIM ENEMIES NOW HAD TO BE RAPED ON THE BATTLE-FIELD BEFORE THEY WERE TO BE DRAGGED TO THE SLAVE-MARKET AND SOLD INTO MORE RAPE, MORE ATTROCITIES
COULD YOU PLEASE POST ME ANY SIMILAR PASSAGES FROM THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES?
THERE IS MORE:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relations with them without impregnating them. So they asked the prophet about coitus interruptus. The prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection". (Sahih Bukhari, vol.9, #506) (further reference Bukhari 5: 459)
Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: "O Abu Said, did you hear Allah's messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interrupts)?" He said, "Yes", and added: "We went out with Allah's messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl" (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: "We are doing an act whereas Allah's messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?" So we asked Allah's messenger and he said: "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born". (Sahih Muslim vol.2, # 3371)
Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah's messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: "And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran - 4:24), (i.e. they were lawful for them when their Idda (menstrual) period came to and end). (Sahih Muslim, vol.2, #3432)
In on particular occasions the HUSBAND EVEN WATCHED WHILE THEIR WIVES WERE RAPED BY THE COMPANIONS OF THE PROPHET:
Abu Said al-Khudri said: "The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, "And all married women (are forbidden) unto your save those (captives) whom your right hand possesses". That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period."" [The Quran verse is 4:24]. (Sunan of Abu Dawud, vol.2, #2150)
SO IN THIS CASE, THE HUSBANDS WERE ACTUALLY WATCHING THEIR WIVES BEING RAPED
COULD YOU PLEASE POST SIMILAR PASSAGES FROM THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES?
WE SHALL WAIT FOR YOU TO MEET THE CHALLENGE, IF YOU CAN!
I have however a few comments to the article you posted
First and most (as I have already mentioned), all these events contradict Christian standard, and they find no place in the New Testament teaching; hence all these events and the individuals engaging in them, disprove their faith and religion.
I have already been through the website your are posting from; here are two comments to some points with the site which you did not post:
The website you were posting from says:
"They [the Christians] would cut an Indian's hands and leave them dangling by a shred of skin ... [and] they would test their swords and their manly strength on captured Indians and place bets on the slicing off of heads or the cutting of bodies in half with one blow...
Again this contradicts the teachings of Christianity, hence this act needs to be excluded from Christianity; however, crucifixion and the cutting off of body-parts is acceptable within Islam
The just retribution for those who fight GOD and His messenger, and commit horrendous crimes, is to be killed, or crucified, or to have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or to be banished from the land. This is to humiliate them in this life, then they suffer a far worse retribution in the Hereafter (Sura 5: 33).
further it says:
"The Spaniards took babies from their mothers' breasts, grabbing them by the feet and smashing their heads against rocks...
You will find that the same took place when the Muslims invaded India, but in that case the babies were thrown up into the air and caught by the Muslims spears (sorry I was unable to find the source right now).
further your website states:
Then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive."
In the history of Islam people were burned alive:
Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people [hypocrites] and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said,"Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " (Sahih Bukhari 4.260)
As the passage also reveals (and there are more of them), that any apostates of Islam (individuals who leave Islam) should be killed.