Thank you for proving my point. Dr. Spitzer is not associated with any ex-gay ministry or association. Also his initial studies were based on his private practice. As to Dr. Throckmorton all you have done is attempt to discredit a physchologist who disagrees with you.
What is telling about your posts is you ask for proof and then ignore available proof that demonstrates that people can change. As to posting my own thoughts I have, which you and other radicle gays simply discount as religious lies. Also you discount anecdotal studies and then appeal to your own anecdotal experiences in an attempt to discredit what other people share. In other words lemmein, you are a hypocritical bigot that refuses to tolerate those who disagree with you while at the same time demanding tolerance of your own views. This is typical of irrational radicles on both sides of this issue.
What else is telling about your posts is you deny appealing to the APA's and then link to articles that deal with APA decisions; decisions that were based on flawed and unscientific studies, which include Kinsey's 1948 debunked study and Hooker's less than scientific study. If you want to keep the APA's out of this discussion then don't link to your college's pyschology department that parrots what the APA preaches without appealing to sound peer-reviewed studies using a broad base of people that are not hand picked to come to an unscientific conclusion.
If you took the time to read what I posted about pathology and homosexuality I posted that for some homosexuality is pathological and your response is I am wrong. Now prove it. Lying is not pathological but mental health professionals treat pathological liars. Anxiety and depression are not always pathological but for some both are serious mental health conditions that are treatable (even curable) with proper counseling. So you whole thesis falls apart.
As to my referring you to articles that is what is known as self-education, something I encourage all people to do including those seeking help overcoming their gay orientation. I have never posted or claimed that changing ones sexual orientation is easy in fact, depending on the age of the individual it can take years.