ArchivedCBN - Memphis Group under Fire for Trying to Transform GaysI see you avoided my question as to what proof you would consider to be acceptable to any "same rational person". It that because all you have appealed to are anecdotal studies that cannot prove to "any sane rational person" that homosexuality cannot be "cured" by effective theraphy where the client wants to be cured of a condition that has been effectively treated by psychotheraphy and/or psychoanalysis? This lemmein, is a description of a flawed study. You can read the whole analysis of her study at the above link. Now in case you are going to charge that the referenced link is a pack of lies concerning how Hooker choose her research universe here is a link to a gay site that verifies that Hooker did not use accepted scientific practices including a heterosexual control group in coming to her conclusions: http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/hooker_e.html Now if any pro-change psychologist tried to publish a study using the same criteria Hooker used the APA and gay activists would be all over the study with hate inspired rhetoric. Have you read Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth? I really doubt it since a balanced discussion of homosexuality and the possibility of change is not what you are looking for. Prior to the APA's decision to remove homosexuality from the DSMIII in 1973 there were in excess of 1000 reported studies published that showed a success rate for helping those seeking help in overcoming homosexuality that ranged from 100% down to 3%, with an overall average of 50%. Now you will use your favorite comment these are were old flawed studies, which simply begs the question since both APA's have refused to sanction any peer-reviewed research since 1976, which puts the lies to either organization being concerned with science and the mental health of those who need qualified professional help overcoming desires they neither want and can be treated. You have made some assertions without any real proof that reparative therapy is dangerous and ineffective. The only studies you have provided are anecdotal studies presented at APA meetings and the personal opinions of gay friendly psychologists and psychiatrists while at the same time denigrating anecdotal studies published by those such as Spitzer. This is sheer hypocrisy. You have also called those who disagree with the APA and you dishonest and outright liars with no proof that your assertions are true. Another study used by the APA in 1973 was Kinsey’s study you admit was flawed. Also your insistence that the APA is irrelevant to this discussion is sheer lunacy that denies your are seeking a “sane rational” discussion since the APA controls what is approved for publication as acceptable and peer-reviewed and since the APA adamantly refuses to conduct any peer-reviewed research this organization is nothing more than a socio-political tool of gay activism. Now do you think you can answer my question as to what you consider evidence that “any sane rational person” will accept that homosexuals can change their orientation or are you simply here to rant against reality? |
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