Religious Cults & False Prophets~ Discussions and DebatesPaul and the LawAt first you said, that the vision meant that God anulled the dietary laws. Then you were corrected and now you speak this partial truth. We have been over this scripture several times already and this will be the last time I address it. The vision was for Peter to not call the gentiles, an unholy people, unclean. But it does not state that unclean foods are now clean. Understand that visions and prophecy are not literal Aineo. Stop giving scripture your own meaning. Since you say that Peter was violating the law, by eating unclean foods, show where scripture says that Peter was eating unclean foods, which you will not be able to do b/c it does not say that. Again you are adding to my words as you do with scripture. I never said tradition was the law. I said this: I said their traditions made God's word of none effect, as Christ testified. So where do you see me calling their traditions the Law? Clearly, you are giving my words your own meaning just as you've done with Peter's vision. You said: Show me where I said the Law states that Christ is our Passover and I'll do that. That is true and agree with you that if you transgress on any part, you're guilty of all. So can you think of anything else to say. Regarding Acts 15, for the third time, I will answer this. I've answered this twice already (in a thread and in pm's) and again I will let you know that this is my last time addressing this. Verse 19 Wherefore my sentence is that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God. So far we see that they are not trying to be overbearing. Verse 20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. So we see that since they did not want to be overbearing that they chose only to speak of a few things. Notice that they don't tell them not to lie, get drunk, murder, or steal. So is it okay if they do these things since they were not mentioned? Or will you avoid this question as you've avoided myriad points I've made in everypost? Verse 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day. And now they give us the reason why they are only speaking of the more urgent matters at hand. 19 shows that they did not want to be overbearing (trouble them) so they chose to speak on a few things that they judged as more urgent then other things because they have people who preach Moses of old time (the Law) every Sabbath. Basic comprehension shows these things to be true. Do you disagree that verse 19 says that they did not want to be burdensome for the Gentiles? If so, what does it say? Do you disagree that they spoke to them on the most urgent or a few things? If not, then why did they not talk about murder, lying, and stealing, if those are the only things gentiles are to observe listed in Acts 15:20? Do you disagree that their reason for doing these things (indicated by "For" in verse 21) is because they have Moses preached every Sabbath? If not, why did they say this? Again I will say, that I have been responding to every point you make, but if you continue to ignore and avoid my points, then I will discontinue this discussion. And you can just call me all types of names and say I'm avoiding you as you always do, although it is not true. I'm not going to be petty and ask that you respond to the things in the previous posts, because they have grown so much that I wouldn't want to subject you to the time you would have to put into it, although I doubt you would do that becuse you continually avoid what I state. But I will ask these two questions and hopefully I'll get a response to this and the other points I've made. Rom 3:31 states that we establish the law. So if we establish the law, being under grace, how do you figure that we walk contrary to it under grace? Secondly, Paul states that the law is he knew what sin was. So if the law is what informs us of sin, should we continue to sin? Love Always, |
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