Religious Cults & False Prophets~ Discussions and DebatesPaul and the LawWhat? Don't you know that the bible contains God's word. The OT is cohesive with the New Testament. It possesses the Word of God. How else can one understand if they don't know how they relate to one another? You are not speaking wisely, saying such things. Paul is the one who applied Christ to the Passover. I qouted him. Paul said that Christ is our passover. The Spirit is the one who applied Christ's fulfillment of it to the OT laws (note: I have always said and do say, that some things were foreshadowings). You say I have told you that such things are kept in Christ. Read Hebrews, you'll see how the temple relates to Christ and the fulfillments of Christ in those things (foreshadowings). Just as Christ is the sacrifice (or fulfillment of the sacrificial system [foreshadowing]), He is our sacrifice. Christ is our Passover, in Him we keep the feast, as Scripture shows it's fulfillment by Paul's testimony. I never we are not to observe it, I said we are not His if it's not celebrated in Him, for He is our Passover. You said Now, you are giving my words your own meaning like you have been doing with scripture. THis is what I said: I said you were being carnally minded because I said, I speak of the Passover and you think of physical things (religious celebrations and eating literal unleavened bread). Our Passover is spiritual. Christ is our unleavened bread. When I spoke of you being carnally minded, I said nothing about dietary laws, or whether you observe celebrations. You added that. I said you're being carnally minded because of how you're thinking and not what you do or don't do. You said this:
The party of the circumcision is the Jews. Because a Jew was not supposed to eat with Gentiles according to their traditions. Acts 10:28 - And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Notice, but God just gave him a vision which conveyed that Peter should call no man uncommon. And no, it was not because they did not observe dietary laws. It was because a Jew was not supposed to keep company with a Gentile, according to their traditions. How do you even assume to know what their diets were like anyway? And you continued: What I'm saying doesn't deny the content or context. So far, you have not qouted one things I've said to anyscripture of Rom 6, that you claim I've taken out of context. Yet, every scripture you post and speak on the content of it, it is clear that you are adding things that is not said in them. Such as dietary laws. The scripure says nothing of dietary laws, but Peter withdrawing himself from the Gentiles brethren. You said this:
1 John 3:4 - Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Since you say it's my personal interpretation. Tell us what is this scripture saying. It is not saying that sin is transgressing the law? I would love to understand how you feel it says otherwise. You say this: John is teaching that any person who claims to be a Christian and practices sin is not a Christian You see, this is what I mean by you add your own meaning. Look at how you what you have to say about 1 John 3:4 Where is a distinction? He says whosoever and not Christian or non-Christian. You take whosoever commits sin, transgresses the law. because sin is transgressing the law. and make it to mean a person who claims to be Christain and practices sin is not a christain. It says sin is the transgression of the law verbatim. So if I say, if one transgresses the law, it is sin. How is that taken out of context? It is not. Conversely, you say, that any person who claims to be a christain and practices sin, is not a Christain. The scripture says not thing of any specific group, it says whosoever. He doesn't say who a person is who practices sin. He says what they are doing (transgressing the law). You say a Christain who practices sin is not a Christain? Well how do you know what Sin is? This is how Paul knew what sin is: Romans 7:7 - What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. He says if not for the law, he would not know what sin is. Which is to say that they law tells us what is sin. Proverbs 29:18 - Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. In contrast (opposition) to people perish for having no vision, he says he that keepeth the law is happy. What does that suggest Aineo? Revelation 14:12 - Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus He says the saints are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. The faith of Christ and the keeping of His commandments go hand in hand. Isaiah 8:20 - To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. I take God to be true and every man a liar. According to the Prophet Isaiah, if one does not speak according to the law and the testimony, there is no light in them. Since I believe God, I must acknowledge, there is no light in you because you speak contrary to His word. The prophets and apostles, and even Christ Himself, spoke according to both. They did not speak contrary to it. Love Always, |
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