Barabbas, you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. You have already judged the gay community to hell and then appeal to a section of Scripture concerning church discipline to legalize the life you condemn. This is hypocrisy.
barabbas wrote:Yes you are, if you would vote that gays don't have the right to marry. I support gays right to go to hell, even though I prefer that they repent as I have of such an abominable lifestyle.
You have judged and then tell those of us that oppose a human behavior God labels an abomination that we don’t have the right to take a public stance on God’s revealed morality.
As to gay unions, we are taking a Biblical stance to oppose a human behavior that is contrary to God’s revealed truth while you on the other hand have judged those in the gay community in violation of the Scripture you quote to support legalizing gay unions.
Lets put 1 Corinthians 5:13 into its full context.
1 Cor 5
5:1 It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father's wife. 2 And you have become arrogant, and have not mourned instead, in order that the one who had done this deed might be removed from your midst. 3 For I, on my part, though absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged him who has so committed this, as though I were present. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? 7 Clean out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. 8 Let us therefore celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters; for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he should be an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-- not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. NAS
Jesus taught:
Matt 5:14-16
14 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 "Nor do men light a lamp, and put it under the peck-measure, but on the lampstand; and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 "Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. NAS
What you are advocating is we extinguish the light of our witness to God’s truth in the name of the separation of church and state; a concept not found in the U.S. Constitution.
I fail to see what the Crusades and the Inquisitions have to do with this thread. Apostasy entered Christianity before the original apostles were dead and has continued to infect Christianity ever since.
Morality is not a civil rights issue. Morality is a choice made by individuals and as a Christian I have every right and the obligation to stand for God’s revealed truth.