Christian/Muslim ThreadsNo Proof Quran Copied from Bible, Gnostic or Jewish SourcesMy apologies for the late reply. Tisdall did not say the Arabic Gospel of Infancy was available during the Prophet's time. Loki and Liberate interpreted it that way. If it was available during the Prophet's time, Tisdall, being anti Islam in his writings, would not hesistate to say in clear terms that it was certainly available and could even provide copies and possible dates. But Tisdall strangely did not! Liberate even quoted in the title of Tisdall book and the concerned chapter in CAPITAL. My advise to him is 'Do not judge a book by the title'. The Catholic Encyclopedia said So, even the Catholic Encyclopedia did not state the date. It made a wild guess, 'probably' written before the Hijaz. You take that statement as proof? Loki is quite careless in his statement. He said No, I do not have to disprove the two. I was trying to see with my two eyes the possible dates, the internal and external evidence and the carbon-proofing if it is available. As we all know, there was nothing said of these. And Loki, please tell the readers here the "modern scriptual research about the infancy gospel". We like to hear that. 2) Not satisfied with just the Arabic Gopsel of Infancy, he went to quoted other apocryphals and pointed out the similarities between the Quran and the apocryphals. Loki failed to understand the same problem exists here: If you want to prove that the Quran copied from these books, then you must prove that the books are in Arabic duirng the Prophet's time. Do you have any 'modern research' on these books to back your claims? 3) Liberate asked for the proper definition of 'plagiarism'. I have given him but I guess he found no purpose to use it. 4) As Tisdall failed to give a proper dating to the Arabic Gospel of Infancy, he gave another 'brilliant' suggestion that Mary the Copt might have told or teach the Prophet. I have given the reply earlier. However, Liberate and Loki also gave other names as possible 'teachers'. It makes me wonder if they think the Quran was created by a committee? 5) Loki and Liberate should understand that the Prophet has many enemies in Mecca and Medina. If he has been taught by any of the individuals mentioned by Liberate and Loki, surely his enemies would have pointed out to others that Muhammad (pbuh) learnt from them. That would certainly put a dent on the dakwah of the early Muslims. Strangely, these assumptions of borrowings came not from the Meccan or Medinians or the Christians in Arabia, but the missionaries and other Christians in later times who pointed fingers without proof. Having said all this, I would like to reiterate once again that there is no Proof that the Prophet copied from teh apocryphas. salam |
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