Christian/Muslim ThreadsNo Proof Quran Copied from Bible, Gnostic or Jewish SourcesDid he really? Why would you twist the meanings of Tisdall when the very title of Tisdall's book is the "original sources of the quran" and the concerning chapter subtitle "THE INFLUENCE OF CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIAN APOCRYPHAL BOOKS." http://www.bible.ca/islam/library/Tisda ... chapt4.htm Here again is the quote in it's proper context with bold font on the text you twisted out of it's context: Again please for the record explain to all of us what it means in light of the title of the book "The original sources of the koran" with the subtitle "THE INFLUENCE OF CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIAN APOCRYPHAL BOOKS." Is it really impossible? I would like you to answer a simple question It seems all the proofs that would more than be sufficient to the most objective of readers you dismiss with your mantra "there is no PROOF" (Capitalised emphasis yours as if you are really trying to believe it yourself) Hence my question, how do you define when someone has copied/has plagiaried/has borrowed from another article/apocrypha gospel? We eagerly await your response let us hope it will not be " there is no PROOF this is the correct definition of plagiarism" It seems we have an insight into the mindset of your total arguments, looks like you made a freudian slip here, what you really imply is " I am trying to be difficult because it is a matter of faith" Once you realise that the nestorians,chloridians were already existent in the arabian peninsula at the time of Mohammed and preceded Mohammed and the stories in the koran are traced to the apocrypha gospels because they are the same stories carried by these groups who predated Mohammed and who lived in the arabian peninsula you have to wonder if the final revelation for all mainkind from your allah is nothing other than plagiarism Mohammed cannot then be a prophet ( fact that he has no prophecies to begin with dismisses his prophet hood), fact that his lifestyle is more immoral than many a spiritual leader damns this even more, so it looks like all you have to cling on to is blind faith and the fear of ostracization by your fellow muslims or death. I believe if it came to it you wouldn't hesitate to ask for a video tape recording of Mohammed plagiarising apocrypha gospels if you thought it would help you stall the discussion what you are doing is tantamount to asking the same thing ( else I fail to see why you would bring up such an analogy) Whenever a lawyer says "I am not even asking for" what they imply with the adverb in that sentence is that they could but they are not going to ask for it, inspite of this option being available they are not going to ask for it what you are basically telling us is you have this ammo in the bag " you are going to ask us for a videotape if it came to it" When you set the rules of your debates with such a subjective slant nothing anybody is going to say to you will mean anything to you, your head is in the sand denying all and every other scenario but what you wish it to be, hence it is critical before we progress for you to define what your definition of plagiarism is. The above has been proved repeatedly I wonder if you are a shia? |
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