sardab wrote:Aburaees, you fabricate something and expect me to disprove. Sorry, the normal course should be that you have to substantiate your case.
Anyways, I will give you the source but will not quote it here. A little labor please.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 723
Thank you for the source, I'll quote it.
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 723:
Narrated Said bin Al-Musaiyab:
Al-Bahira was an animal whose milk was spared for the idols and other dieties, and so nobody was allowed to milk it. As-Saiba was an animal which they (i.e infidels) used to set free in the names of their gods so that it would not be used for carrying anything. Abu Huraira said, "The Prophet said, 'I saw Amr bin 'Amir bin Luhai Al-Khuzai dragging his intestines in the (Hell) Fire, for he was the first man who started the custom of releasing animals (for the sake of false gods).' "
Also Ibn Ishaq the Muslim Historian was quoted in the biography of Muhammad (Ar-Raheequl-Makhtum by Safiyr-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri);
Sa'ibah; a female camel that gave birth to ten successive females, but no males. It was then set free and all were forbidden to tie her, shear off her wool, or milk her.
Also Ibn Hisham 1/90-90;
A she-camel consecutively giving birth to ten female calves without the intervention of any male calf was tabooed and was named al-sa'ibah. She was not to be used for riding or carrying any load, her hair was not to be trimmed and her milk was not to be drunk except by a guest.
I fabricate nothing, so you should be careful of making false accusations.
It is clear that a
Sa'ibah camel was a she-camel set free in the name of a god, as a result of the "miraculous" feat of producing ten consecutive females.
Salih's camel was a she-camel set free in the name of Allah
Surah 7:73 - To the Thamud people (We sent) Salih, one of their own brethren: He said: "O my people! worship Allah: ye have no other god but Him. Now hath come unto you a clear (Sign) from your Lord! This she-camel of Allah is a Sign unto you: So leave her to graze in Allah's earth, and let her come to no harm, or ye shall be seized with a grievous punishment.
Now let's draw parallels from the facts;
1) Both camels were she-camels.
2) Both camels were set free for a god.
3) Both camels were considered a "sign" from a god.
In a culture where many types of camels were considered miraculous, and were set free for gods, what other kind of "sign" from god do you propose that Salih's camel was?
You can say what you like. If you don't produce a source that goes against my claim, there shall be many christians and muslims on this site who will judge for themselves in the matter.
Why on earth would Allah deny Sa'ibah camels as coming from him, only to reveal that one of his elect messengers brought an identical camel as a sign from him?
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