Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Trinity is Mathematically impossibleIf i'm walking, if i'm talking and when i'm watching ever heard of the hypostatic union? it's a difficult word for a simple explenation. Hypostatic is a term taken from the Greek noun u`po,stasij, hypostasis which refers to the union of the two natures ouvsi,ai (ousiai, nature) of Christ, the divine and the human. "the Father is greater than I." Muslims will say that if Jesus is God, how could He be greater than Himself? Of course, they fail to understand the Trinity (three persons) and they fail to understand that Jesus, as a man (Phil. 2:5-8), cooperated with the limitations of being a man and was in a lower position than the Father (Heb. 2:9) for a while. Jesus only had need of prayer because of His human nature. Apart from the incarnation, there would be no need of praying, for God does not need to pray. Only God, limited by the assumption of a genuine human existence, needs to pray. We do not understand this as meaning that the divine nature of Christ prayed to the Father, because then we have God praying to Himself. This is not the portrayal of Scripture, and would make no sense. Jesus is one person with two natures. He is both God and man as is declared in Col. 2.9, "For in Him [Jesus] dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily." He is not half God and half man. He is 100% God and 100% man We do not have His divine nature praying to the Father, which would be the same divine person, but we have a human being, who does not exercise the prerogatives of deity, but is willingly-limited to the prerogatives shared by all of humanity, relying on the Spirit of God for His every word and miracle, and thus praying to the Source of His human strength. In such a capacity Jesus could pray to the Father. It was only in His humanity that He could be subordinate to the Father, and thus could pray, or have need of prayer. Christ’s divine will is separate from His human will. . Lk 22:42 “Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup from me; nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.” However, both wills are always in perfect harmony because His human will always aligns itself with His divine will. John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am." The hypostatic union of the human and the divine natures in Christ is given explicit treatment in at least seven passages, Phil.2:6-11; Jn.1:114; Rom.1:25; 9:5; 1Tim.3:16; Heb.2:14; 1Jn.1:13. These passages make it evident that the eternal Son of God took upon Himself a complete human nature and became a man. He never lost his divinity. He continued to exist as God when He became a man and added human nature to Himself. Therefore, there is a "union in one person of a full human nature and a full divine nature." Right now in heaven there is a man, Jesus, who is our Mediator between us and God the Father. If Christ was not fully God and fully man, He could not do what He did to save us. "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" In short: God withdrew His Holy Spirit from Jesus and turned His back on him because Jesus had taken upon himself all the sins of mankind, and God (The Father) cannot and will not look upon sin. The separation was a judicial or spiritual one. God as Judge turned His face from Jesus. Jesus was “made sin” judicially and the guilt that He bore in that fashion caused God the Righteous Judge to forsake Him. Included in this forsaking was the intimacy and communion which normally flowed between the Father and the Son based on their mutual ethical holiness. For all of eternity there was perfect communion and intimacy between the Jesus Christ and the Father. However at the moment at which the Lamb of God took upon Himself the sin of the world, there was a judicial separation and a break in the sweetness and perfection of the communion between the Father and the Son. Jesus felt the weight of sin which was placed upon him; He felt the pain of becoming a curse for us. He felt the pain of God’s judicial wrath that now rested upon Him. This was not a separation of the two persons in the Godhead. Jesus was not dismissed from the Trinity. The Godhead is one indivisible essence subsisting in three persons. This is an eternally necessary arrangement and cannot be changed. Jesus was at all times a full member of the Godhead. (Heb 13:8) His cry on the cross was not an expression of lack of confidence in God the Father. It was an expression of real suffering because God the Father had truly and really forsaken Him on the cross. On the cross, Jesus quotes a Messianic Psalm, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?” (Psalm 22:1). The Bible gives us the answer to Jesus’ haunting question. Jesus was without sin, and yet He suffered and died as if He was a sinner! That is why God forsook Him, letting Him die slowly on a cruel cross. “It pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin” (Isaiah 53:10). That is why God did not save him from death right there and then. And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone." In short: human standards of goodness are not God's Jesus is forcing the young ruler to face the implications of calling Jesus "good," not only with regard to Jesus' goodness, but also with regard to his own. The young ruler shows himself to be "good" by every human test - he is devoted to keeping the Law. His fellow Jews considered his wealth to be another measure of his goodness. However, Jesus' pointed question here and His command that the young ruler renounce his wealth and follow Him (10:21) reveal that human standards of goodness are not God's. The first commandment of the Law is to place God first in one's life and to love Him completely. The young ruler "went away sad" (10:22) because he realized that though he had devoted himself to keeping the other commandments, he had failed to keep the first. His riches meant more to him than God did, and thus he was not "good" in the eyes of God. It is important to note that Jesus' pointed remarks were motivated by love, a correction of the sole "lack" in the young man's devotion. Thus, Jesus' fundamental lesson is that "goodness" flows not from men's deeds, or even their sincere attempt to keep the Law, but rather must have another source - God Himself. In this context, Jesus' request to "follow Me" is the equivalent of doing good by God's standard. Jesus encourages the young ruler to give up his wealth and put God first by following God's Son. |
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