Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Trinity is Mathematically impossibleBliss I am going to change my tone towards you because I am not dealing with a troll here, you seriously lack biblical knowledge and understanding. Sorry, but that is what we understand from your comments. Also you are in deep HUNGER for God, you need to turn to the one that loves you and the one that you do NOT know yet... No, I am sorry, my life is not a test, nor any other Christians. We are not playing to pass, someone already passed it for us. And in Him, the life is best, whether you are poor or rich, or healthy, unhealthy, doesn't matter. Who says He cannot be a prophet? Islamic conjecture!!! Don't get hung up with the descriptions islam had brought. Read here; Prophet \Proph"et\, n. [F. proph[`e]te, L. propheta, fr. Gr. ?, literally, one who speaks for another, especially, one who speaks for a god an interprets his will to man, fr. ? to say beforehand; ? for, before + ? to say or speak. See Fame. ] 1. One who prophesies, or foretells events; a predicter; a foreteller. 2. One inspired or instructed by God to speak in his name, or announce future events, as, Moses, Elijah, etc. 3. An interpreter; a spokesman. [R.] --Ex. vii. 1. 4. (Zo["o]l.) A mantis. Did Jesus bring God's message and way of salvation? He did. Did He tell people God's will? He did. Did he tell about the events of future? He did. He fits the definition. But that doesn't necessarily mean that because of this he is a prophet in the islamic sense. No, He was the Son Of GOD! You said, some thought Him as a prophet. Who were they? Why do you take those into consideration but not the disciples? What did disciples think about their teacher? Read Matthew 16:13-20 Does stoning the devil during hajj make sense to you? Jesus was a messenger of the Kingdom of Heaven. Also your analogy is wrong. Before all created, Jesus existed. Read John 1:1 Your parable doesn't make sense, I don't see a point. If my child and I are one, then read John 15:13 Also, you don't have to kill anyone. Read Numbers 21:4-9. Before Adam, Jesus WAS, Jesus was Adam's creator so your logic doesn't make sense whatsoever. Don't try to create unbiblical theories to make yourself happy, because it fails. Islamic mind won't go hand in hand with the concept of Christianity. Yea it is, though discussion forums are not trivia games. OK, Genesis 3:15, Numbers 21:4-9, Deutronomy 18:16-22. Enough? I just explained. That is what Muhammad wanted you to believe! He had no clue, you have no clue... I already explained this, too. You started running in circles again. Jesus prayed because he was in a human body, he was the Son of Man. He could be tempted, also he set an example with his prayers. I don't know where you are coming up with this unfounded theories. This is what islam is doing to you. Jesus being Jewish had no bearing to what he preached or taught. And you got hung up with the Trinity word. The word doesn't have to be in the Bible. Trinity is a word to define a concept of God. Read Matthew 28:16-20 to see Jesus talking about Trinity. Read Matthew 3:13-17, you will see Trinity presented there. These hopes of yours are worthless bud, let go. Jesus is divine, He was God, and God saved this world. You didn't give any answers buddy, you only conjectured according to islam that is being fed to you. It is not healthy and your theories don't fit anywhere in the Bible. Well, your claim still doesn't make sense. Do you know the meaning of the name Jesus (Yeshua) ? That is what Gabriel told Mary to name the Son of Man. Isaiah's Immanuel was indeed the prophecy and came true. Read your claim again, it doesn't make sense. Joh 17:11 - And now I am no more in the world,.... In the earth; which is no contradiction to his resurrection from the dead, and stay with his disciples for a while; nor to his return to judge the world at the last day; nor to his reigning on earth with his saints a thousand years; since it will not be the world as it now is, but it will be a new earth, renewed, purified and refined, and clear of the wicked inhabitants of it; and in which will only dwell righteous persons: besides, Christ was to be, and will be no more in the world, in such circumstances, and doing such work as he then was: the meaning is, that whereas he had been in the world, and had done, or as good as done the work he came about, he was now just going out of it; it was but a very little while he had to stay in it; nor should he continue long with his disciples when he rose from the dead; and whereas his bodily presence had been a guard unto them, a protection of them, and he had bore the heat and burden of the day for them, and had took all reproaches and persecutions upon himself, now he was going from them: but these are in the world; and will continue for some time, they having much work to do, and be exposed to the evils, snares and temptations of it; where they were hated, and were liable to great hardships, afflictions and persecutions; which shows that Christ was not so intent on his own glory, as to neglect the good of his people, and to be unconcerned for them: and I come to thee; signifying his death; the deposition of his soul into his Father's hands; his ascension in soul and body to him; his entrance into heaven, and session at the right hand of God; and therefore had nothing to ask for on his own account: but his disciples he was parting with lay near his heart, and therefore he prays; holy Father, keep, through thine own name, those whom thou hast given me: the person prayed unto is God the Father, the Father of Christ, and of his people; a very proper relation to consider God in and under in prayer to him: since it must give freedom, boldness, and hope of success: the epithet "holy" is exceeding suitable, as it perfectly agrees with him who is essentially so; and since it was holiness and an increase of it Christ prays for; and that there his disciples might be kept from the evil of sin: the persons prayed for are those that were given to Christ in election, and in the covenant, to be kept by him, and therefore he is the more solicitous for their preservation: his request is, that his Father would keep them from the evil of the world; from sinking under temptations and afflictions; faithful to him and to his Gospel, and in unity among themselves; and that "through" or "in" his own name; in it, in the doctrine of the Gospel, and in the worship of God, and profession of him; "through" it, through himself, as a wall of fire about them, and by his power through faith unto salvation: that they may be one as we are; in nature, will, affection and understanding; which must be understood not of equality, but of likeness; and designs not their union to Christ, but to one another; abiding together, cleaving to each other, standing fast in one Spirit, having the same designs, and the interest of a Redeemer in view, and at heart.
It doesn't take a genius kid. I call you to Islam. Accept my call, and you shall be unharmed. If you refuse to accept Islam, your power shall vanish, my horses shall camp on the expanse of your territory and my prophecy shall prevail in your kingdom." You skipped the main question; Do you have Biblical support for these events? Didn't you say; The whole reason for this discussion is to learn the other person's views is it not? Haha :roll: How do you determine those people are Terrorists but not muslims? If Hijackers are terrorists, not muslims, how come do you call crusaders Christians while they had no biblical support as to do what they did in history? If crusaders are Christians, hijackers are muslims as well... :roll: Sorry to shoot you down with your own logic. Let me correct you. One God, revealing Himself in 3 Persons. You are counting the persons. Not gods... Yes? Ah thanks, you made my point. Also was there any disease, sickness, unhappiness in the garden? No. So he was perfect compared you and me. Thank you very much. Hey I read your posts thrice to undestand and try to make sense what you are saying. I feel like talking to a elementary school kid. It is not me, check your end. I didn't ask you the arabic verse, I asked you the arabic of the Trinity, which is Thalaathah or thaalith thalaathah ... Now translate this into English. What is it? "THREE" Heh, where is the Trinity in Quran? Nowhere, only in translator's conjecture... |
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