Christian/Muslim ThreadsThe Quran: Which Version?H2O wrote:Aburaees,
Why do you quote hadeeth that contradict each other ? As a matter of fact what you have posted has already be refuted. What you all have done is took the hadeeth from out of their correct perspective of other hadeeth that say that those saying where the saying of the Prophet himself and not the words of the Quran whereas the hadeeth you post is not supported by the majority of reported hadeeth on the issue.
Now lets quote the hadeeth with others in its context.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2277.
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Chapter : If there were two valleys (of gold for the son, of Adam, he would long for the third one.
Abu Huraira reported from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as having said this: The heart of an old person feels young for the love of two things: love for long life and wealth.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2278.
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Chapter : If there were two valleys (of gold for the son, of Adam, he would long for the third one.
Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) had said this: The heart of an old person is young for two things: for long life and love for wealth.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2279.
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Chapter : If there were two valleys (of gold for the son, of Adam, he would long for the third one.
Anas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The son of Adam grows old, but two (desires) in him remain young: desire for wealth and desire for life.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2280.
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Chapter : If there were two valleys (of gold for the son, of Adam, he would long for the third one.
A hadith like this has been narrated by Anas through another chain of transmitters.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2281.
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Chapter : If there were two valleys (of gold for the son, of Adam, he would long for the third one.
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Anas through another chain of transmitters.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2282.
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Chapter : one is not rich because of the abundance of goods.
Anas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If the son of Adam were to possess two valleys of riches, he would long for the third one. And the stomach of the son of Adam is not filled but with dust. And Allah returns to him who repents.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2283.
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Chapter : one is not rich because of the abundance of goods.
Anas b. Malik reported: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying this, but I do not know whether this thing was revealed to him or not, but he said to.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2284.
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Chapter : one is not rich because of the abundance of goods.
Anas b. Malik reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If there were two valleys of gold for the son of Adam, he would long for another one and his mouth will not be filled but with dust, and Allah returns to him who repents.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2285.
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Chapter : one is not rich because of the abundance of goods.
Ibn Abbas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: If there were for the son of Adam a valley full of riches, he would long to possess another one like it, and Ibn Adam does not feel satiated but with dust. (14:13) And Allah returns to him who returns (to him). (14:14) Ibn Abbas said: I do not know whether it is from the Qur'an or not; and in the narration transmitted by Zuhair it was said: I do not know whether it is from the Qur'an, and he made no mention of Ibn Abbas.
Book 005, Hadith Number 2286.
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Chapter : one is not rich because of the abundance of goods.
Abu Harb b. Abu al-Aswad reported on the authority of his father that Abu Musa al-Ash'ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur'an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara'at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: "If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust." And we used so recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it, but remember (this much) out of it: "Oh people who believe, why do you say that which you do not practise" (lxi 2.) and "that is recorded in your necks as a witness (against you) and you would be asked about it on the Day of Resurrection" (xvii. 13).
It is obvious as corrected by others that he got the sayings of the Prophet mixed up with the words of Allah ie the Quran. Also the report is not support by any other people in which others say contrary that it is not a verse of the Quran.
This is what happens when you dont verify your source of information. Its merely following after what you read from some Christian website or book in which you never studied it your self by going back to the actually source it self and understanding it in its context.
How convenient, you ignore the authentic Hadith that goes against your views.
By the way, none of those Hadiths say that it wasn't part of the Qur'an!
Tell us, what would you accept as proof that the Qur'an has been changed?
If you won't accept a Hadith (and by the way, there wouldn't be many as I'm sure the doctors of Islam would have destroyed the evidence given the chance), what would you accept?
The truth is most muslims have shut their minds to anything that goes against the Qur'an.
So there is really no point trying to prove the Qur'an has been changed because you would never accept the proof.
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