Hello zyalnar!
First of all, if you like to continue posting can you please refrain from vulgar language, ok my friend?
zyalnar wrote:I wonder why the administrators or moderators jerks chicken cowards here keep deleting what kick their asses and expose the paranoia of their psycho savior jesus:
Yet Christians do not live by those words, they live by the words of Jesus; forgiveness and love.
Zyalnar, your not going to get others to listen to your side or point of view when you respond in rage and contempt. It's up to you if you want to continue!
zyalnar wrote:But about the bullshits of "love your enemy"?
These teachings are non sense bullshit and against the human nature. And the funny part is that Jesus was the first to reject his own teachings of "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you":
Judas was the enemy of Jesus, but instead of loving him and pray for him, he just cursed him:
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born. [Mark 14:21]
Jews were the enemies of Jesus, but instead of loving them and praying for them he just insult them when calling them "Fools", "Vipers", "Snakes", "Wicked"....
Just look at Luke parable in chapter 19 against the Jews:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Jesus is considered the king of ANTI-SEMITISM.
You must realize that "ALL JUDGEMENT" Is given unto the Son:
John 5:22 - For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Secondly the reason why Jesus referred to them as Vipers, snakes and wicked is because they rejected Him and casted Him out as an associate of Satan.
Matthew 8:12 - But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Oftentimes we must show love to our enemies who know not any better at the moment the offenses they direct towards us. Jesus Himself forgave the very men who killed Him!
Luke 23:34 - Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
zyalnar wrote:Why did Jesus refuse to heal the Canaanite daughter in Mathew 15? Isn't this woman supposed to be his enemy? He jus healed her when she had believed in him.
How can i love my enemy and pray for him if I refuse to heal him? When you love someone you do everything to please him and you do not wait for a return.
This is just non sense shit.
Jesus refused to heal the Canaanite woman? Are you sure?
Matthew 15:28 - Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And (her daughter was made whole) from that very hour.
zyalnar wrote:Please dont use the acient words of the Holy Bible as an excuse for your laziness not to accept Jesus Christ in today's world.
Hey moron read the words of your psycho:
Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. [Matthew 23:1-3]
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 5:17-19]
It's really amazing how the Christians jerks are ready to drop 90% of the word of god when they are embarrassed.
The Levitical and Ceremonial laws pertains to Gods covenant with Israel, not the Gentile race. These laws are still in effect!
zyalnar wrote:Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. [4]
The verse before:
O you who believe! take your precaution, then go forth in detachments or go forth in a body. [verse 71]
So the Muslims were in war to defend themselves against pagans and God asked them to be aware from pagans’ perfidy.
O Prophet! urge the believers to war; [8]
Read the verses before:
Those of them with whom thou madest a treaty, and then at every opportunity they break their treaty, and they keep not duty (to Allah). [verse 56]
They broke the treaty and start to kill Muslims again.
Warfare is ordained for you, [2]
And fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearing, Knowing. [2]
The verses are detailed continuation of verses 190:
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
Furthermore, The Noble Qur'an says that if an enemy surrender, then Muslim is obliged to protect him and to escort him to a secure place:
"And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not". [The Noble Qur'an 9:6]
Please tell me which army in our days would be obliged to protect and convey an enemy to a safe place???
The Noble Qur'an clearly states that Muslims don't have the right to attack someone if he didn’t attack them:
"Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice". [The Noble Qur'an 60:8].
Lets take a look at the few commentaries you made and compare them with your god Allaah ok?
zyalnar wrote:Jews were the enemies of Jesus, but instead of loving them and praying for them he just insult them when calling them "Fools", "Vipers", "Snakes", "Wicked"....
Just look at Luke parable in chapter 19 against the Jews:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Jesus is considered the king of ANTI-SEMITISM.
Allaah wrote:Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan. [4]
The verse before:
O you who believe! take your precaution, then go forth in detachments or go forth in a body. [verse 71]
So the Muslims were in war to defend themselves against pagans and God asked them to be aware from pagans’ perfidy.
zyalnar wrote:But about the bullshits of "love your enemy"?
These teachings are non sense bullshit and against the human nature. And the funny part is that Jesus was the first to reject his own teachings of "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you":
Judas was the enemy of Jesus, but instead of loving him and pray for him, he just cursed him:
The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born. [Mark 14:21]
Allaah wrote:Warfare is ordained for you, [2]
And fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearing, Knowing. [2]
The verses are detailed continuation of verses 190:
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.
zyalnar wrote:Christian terrosrism accross history:
Please try to digest the following. It's only the appetizer. The meal is yet to come. Please pause a moment, reflect back, and enjoy. These events are actual cuts from past Christian history. They actually happened! Do you remember?
Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete):
- As soon as Christianity became legal in the Roman Empire by imperial edict (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were
killed.
- Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer."
- Pagan services became punishable by death in 356.
- Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues.
- In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
- In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.
- The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
- Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity,
beheaded.
- Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany.
- Battle of Belgrade 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered.
If you want to see the rest of Christian BLOOD and KILLING festivals accross history, check here:
http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
What is a Christian, a follower of Christ and one who does what He has taught and commanded, have these? A list of hypocrites are not considered children of God nor Christian. I'm your friend zyalnar not your enemy, and as to me being your friend is on you. Christ came to reveal God and to show His True Nature and Mercy and Grace by dying for your sins. Without the shedding of Blood there is no remission of sins. Christ died for you, what has Mohammad done?
God Bless!