Christian/Muslim ThreadsQuran (& Hadith) full of scientific errors!!1. - so then it should really read "We placed him as sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a blood hang, cling dangle; then of that hanging, clinging, dangling blood We made a lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create!" (Quran 23:13-14) - It still doesn't mention womb, and i can't imagine a dingling blood or whatever as a womb, i don't think a womb dangles either - It still contradicts that living tissue is formed first and then bones grow at a latter time - You've also proven that all translations of the quran are not correct, and that there is more then one quran - You ignored the possibility of Muhammed just borrowing a 1000 year old known embrylogy theory 2. - Since Allah decides the genitalia of the man and woman what he wishes, this is ment in the plural (since it is in the contineous time, "Allah sends an angel to it", not "Allah had sent an angel to it") so it can't be brought back to the islam myth wich says man is made from water... if so then this hadith verse wouldn't been ment in the plural, unless Allah is making man from water daily in a timespan of 42 days... wich would be highly unscientific in my opinion - Could you please then explain what it DOES mean? 3. Why do you leave out the 360 joints?? 4. - so prior to the 20th century, this quran verse just didn't make sence - this excuse theory is as much scienitific as someone saying "time is relative" before Einstein discovered it... would this mean, this person knew that time is relative? or that he was being scientific? That's why the need for emphasize on molecules, electrons, protons and neutrons is neccerary.
This is so vague that it could have been about a ant or a dust particle as well... if the verse would of said, "the smaller particles evolve around the center in a ecliptic movement and are opposed to one and another" Such a verse would excluded missconceptions, but noooo Allah had to stay vague, and had to leave it's believers in confucion... for a omniscient God, he isn't making a case here 5. - Look up the Red Star Nebula if you don't know what i mean - and do you know on top of that, that the colours are added to this picture due to infra red and x ray wich is invisible for humans... know that the color used could of been green or blue as well, then where would the argument be? - Muhammad was a typical prophet of doom and gloom. He was very fond of scaring people with tales of blazing fires and dreadful things. In the verse he is threatening his gullible followers that one day the sky will open asunder and becomes red (with fire). - This isn't scary! 6. - What's wrong with the translations? so people who devote their life with only reading one messed up translation will probably go to hell... since it ain't the pure word of God, you allready complained about three verses of the six given so far... if that is the rule for all quran translations then half of a quran translation is always wrongfully translated. and you can't except for every poor muslim to study arabic either. - I only assumed there was one quran, like muslims claim, i'm sorry if you (and i) were wrong - even if this say big bang, by some wacky interpretation, what did it 'cleaved' apart ? heaven and EARTH? matter didn't excisted yet! 7. Why did you leave out the flat earth theory rebutal? 8. So you gave it a little twist, that's not what i read on muslim sites, but still even with this twist, Allah isn't very accurate in his choice of words. Neither are you. The Arabic word used in this verse is dukhan, - "smoke.". Trying to relate smoke with gaseous material is nothing but a hide and seek wordy games played by Mullahs. Moreover, Smoke is made of ash, predominantly carbon, and is produced from burning (oxidation), not plasma condensation. Smoke looks nothing like heated hydrogen or helium, does not share its elemental mass or other properties, and does not even possess many of the general properties of a gas. Thus, Allah chose the wrong word. He could have used "hot gases" or "hot gases expanding in a vacuum" or anything which is more closer to the truth. 9. "You are wrong ! Commets are debris of a Super Nova that are hurled through space as shooting Missles." - it's funny how mere stones can scare devils thou... you sure pre-islamic period didn't do stone worship? - next to that, meteor showerwaves have a predictable orbit as much as a sun or a comet... the only thing that changes their orbits is the influence of gravity of other celestial bodies... these aren't rockets fired at some invisibile (jinns) targets like how a fighter Jet would do on visibile ones, this debris just flies around randomly in a predictable orbit 10. You forgot to rebute the water cycle as a scientific miracle 11. I'm reasonable enough, to assume that the quran doesn't speak scientific here There is no mention of ORBIT, it rises above a flat earth... muslims of that time saw a sun rise and a sun set, without the intention of calling it an orbit, you just added that into it. By your assumptions not by what they said or knew. 12. - No man is created from water/fluid... saying this isn't about sperm is even more far off then when it was about it. - man is made from conception of the female egg and sperm, you can try all your live in trying to conceive a child with just spinal fluid. that comes from your backbone. good luck with that - it's as illogical as saying: a sculpture is made from a rough stone, therefore all rough stones are art Dare live up to my challenge, i just entered this forum... but i assure you, i won't make it easy for you on providing faults in the quran, and not just scientific I hope you are as firm in your beliefs as you think you are. Now for a closing conclusion... you never adressed that Muhammed could and most likely borrowed old theories, since he didn't brought anything new, all the new ones being made are vague reverances summed up in one line, found AFTER the discovery was made... acctually insulting those who really did hard work in proving such stuff as atoms and big bang theories. who write whole thesises and books about the subject... some mullah takes a vague quote from the quran and says it's this... a quote wich is so vague or cryptic you could discribe anything with it. Everything discovered is what man had to discover, the quran never helped in any of this. If Allah really is a man of science, he's an even worst scientist than man. |
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